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Urban Expose Presents: The Top 100 People, Places, and Things With No Buzz.
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The year 2000 is almost at a close. While it has been a good year, it hasn't been a great year. The year 2000 rolled in more like a lamb than a lion. There are no flying cars or personal jet packs. The closest thing we have to anything space aged is a color palm pilot. New Year's Eve proved to be very anti-climatic for many. Many people wished there was a Y2K disaster just so something interesting would happen.
We realize that as a nation we can't make up our minds. We don't know if content is truly king or if it's about e-commerce. We don't know whether to use our cell phones, PDAs, or two-way pagers to check our voice mail. For fuck's sake we had to let the Supreme Court choose our President for us.
This indecisiveness has plagued the emerging urban entertainment dot-bombs. Perhaps that is why in this first year the urban sites and their principles occupy a large amount of the No-Buzz list. We expect a lot out of the urban web properties that were launched, and like the New Year that passed they, for the most part, fizzled. In the year where urban films flourished, and cable channels multiplied by a factor of 10, the Internet was still where everyone's attention was truly focused. Now we finally know what WWW stands for. What Went Wrong?
With that, we proudly present the UE 100:
100. No Limit Records
 No Limit Records changes the way we thought about music promotion, album covers and what a sweet deal with a record label was all about. With a large roster of some of the worst named acts No Limit climbed to the top of the charts with lyrics that were not understandable above the Mason-Dixon line. After the departure of Snoop Doggy Dog and Mystical, No Limit Records finds itself with a roster depleted of A list talent and sagging sales. They still however have a lock on movies with retarded people on bikes chasing rappers in slow motion.
99. Our New President
 George W. Bush has won the presidency. We now have a president that wears utensils around his neck. Good thing daddy put Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court back in the day. At least Judge Rehnquist got to show off his little gold brushes in public again. Awww, they're so cute.
98. Corey Poldolsky
 Corey Poldolsky came into Urban Box Office early on as SVP of Product Development. He convinced George, Frank and Adam that he was some responsible how for Flashradio at Sonicnet. He provided UBO a dense layer of bureaucracy that slowed down anything remotely productive happening. He brought in his wife to help with Womanhood and get a double check. When asked about whether he had ever checked out the competition a month from the close of UBO, Corey said "Black Planet? What's that? I never have seen it but we are going kick their ass!"
97. E. David Ellington
 E. David Ellington, card carrying boulé member, runs Netnoir.com. He gets quite snippy if you forget the E in his name. He is currently transforming Netnoir from a web company into an events / marketing company where they throw parties for Black BBW's and Bi-Curious chatters across the country sponsored by cheap liquor companies. Perhaps that is why David Watkins (#27) is headed out to the west coast.
96. Othervision
 Urban Box Office launched Othervision.com which featured the most derivative storylines ever featured in cartoon series on the web. One of their series for IndiePlanet (#47) is eerily like Gattica meets Logan's Run with a nerd as the protagonist. Their premiere cartoon, the bizarrely named Bulletproof Diva, features porno-star party fixture Heather Hunter. The storyline is like Spawn meets Dark Angel, except her character wears more makeup. Production on the series was halted due to accidental fellatio.
95. Honey
 When Honey Magazine launched, it captured the imagination of young women of color everywhere. Once and for all it made Essence your mother's magazine. Honey recently had a new editor appointed. At least she is more concerned about menopause than manicures during meetings. Somewhere along the way Honey lost that ethereal spark that made it a must read. Now it's like YSB for people who are fucking.
94. John Pasmore
John Pasmore publishes One World Magazine, a magazine with slightly less depth than Bennetton Colors. The Bi-yearly magazine has spawned a generation of writers and editors who now ask for checks up front. He is a partner with Russell Simmons on the rag. Russell provides his name and an editorial column his secretary probably writes. John Pasmore belongs to the same ethnic group as UPN news anchor Reg Wells. He currently moonlights as a middle manager at Hookt. (#6)
93. Brett Wright
 Brett is the SVP of Marketing at Hookt (#6) who has overseen the placement of Hookt magalogs and posters laying on the ground all over New York. Thanks to Brett, Hookt is now a household word among employees of hookt.com. He has a good rapport with music artists because he makes them feel tall. In addition to his salary, Brett's contract stipulates that he is to receive equity and a lifetime supply of activator.
92. Joel Dreyfuss
 Joel Dreyfuss left his comfy job at Fortune magazine reviewing digital watches to join a dotcom in hopes of stocks options. After interviewing with everyone in the space, who found him arrogant and overpriced, he found a home at Urban Box Office where he spent his time writing diatribes, wandering the halls aimlessly, and responding disdainfully to requests for help. His crowning achievement at UBO is the copy for thewilliamssisters.com, which he has submitted to the Pulitzers board for consideration. If only Ben Bradlee could see him now!
91. Black Voices
 Black Voices serves up exciting chatroom fare to participate in such as "Ebony and Ivory", "The Stove Top", and "The Christian Upper Room". Its dwindling market share is due to the success of blackplanet.com. They have maintained their audience by siphoning off the last few users left at Netnoir. They have recently launched a print magazine to promote the brand to college students called BVQ. The site features a mini-site for Tavis "Baby Joyner" Smiley, and a database of personals with pictures from lonely black people from every state.
90. Sheryl Huggins
 Former publisher of Shadè magazine, Sheryl Huggins was an executive at UBO who has the unique distinction of running through 2 staffs and developing two sites which never launched(the Gauge, Urban News Wire). Her dream is to bring capsule club and restaurant reviews from all 50 states in one site. Sheryl dances just like the Peanuts gang in the It's Christmas Charlie Brown TV special. She likes to bring Joel Dreyfuss (#92) around to cocktail parties for a sexually neutral dance partner.
89. SayShe.com
 Let's create a magical place for urban women who shop at Conway's, by bourgeois women who shop at Takashimaya. It will be a place where they can read articles about how artists don't show up for SayShe interviews and women can be swamped with ads for hip-hop sites and their new product line, Urban Luxe; cosmetics for light-skinned mulatto girls.
88. Urban Cool Network
 Urban Cool Network was perhaps the corniest urban web portal play of the year. Its featured an insulting Jim Crow logo and content that even your father would think was square. Now that the IPO market went south, this Texas based roll-up did just that. We don't think anyone even noticed.
87. Chris Sealy
 Chris jumped from Loud to work at a company that implemented his idea. It was called AKA. Chris spent an inordinate amount of time talking up the horribly named Loophole Magazine. This magazine would be revolutionary in that it would feature Mos Def on the cover every issue. The online version of the magazine has mysteriously disappeared after his exit from the AKA fold.
86. Steve Rifkind
 Steve Rifkind had it rough growing up as a 3rd generation music mogul. It was tough growing up in a crib with gold records hanging over it. After funding AKA, he learned that misspelled hip-hop articles hosted on angelfire servers by kids in Iowa aren't as valuable as Mobb Deep albums.
85. Soulhouse
 The legendary artist Isaac Hayes backs the online commerce destination for Soul. Soulhouse has currently closed its doors, but claims that it will re-open December 2000. You used to be able to buy soul music, soul books, soul I-openers, soul travel arrangements and soul E-meters. They would make a killing if they allow you to buy those velvet astrology posters with naked people in different positions.
84. Y2G
 Fubu and Samsung got together to deliver a urban content play that has consistently been under the radar of most write ups of the online urban space. They support the 5 people who chat on the site with articles about the FUBU front men's nightlives, modeling, 2 way pagers and celebrity gossip. Somewhere among all of this they also sell those Fat Albert Shiny Jackets. They also shrunk Fugina's teats, which was the first time we ever saw a gossip columnist with negative body image. FUBU is rumored to be working on Stymie thongs for their summer line.
83. Retha Hill
 Retha Hill used to write catty descriptions of women's outfits in the Beltway for the Washington Post's online site. Now she oversees the blandest content on the net as VP of content for BET.com. At least she knows how to jump Double Dutch. Yum!
82. Rap Pages
 Taking it's place beside other fine Larry Flynt fare like Barely Legal, Rap Pages was a nice counterpoint to The Source. After Flynt pulled the plug on the struggling monthly, founding editor Dane Webb, who negotiated its sale to Timaj publications, revived it. Timaj publishes teenybopper and inmate rags like Black Beat and Word Up, which ironically contain pin-ups and centerfolds of celebrities just like a Larry Flynt publication. Sigh, a far cry from its dreamy halcyon days.
81. Russell Simmons One World
 Using the meaningless let's all be friends and hold crystals psychobabble "One World" as a brand, a name synonymous for mediocrity and blandness, Russell Simmons found the one host that could make one long for Dee Barnes to return to hosting. Kimora Lee, his future wife, helmed the vanity show until dismal ratings raised disputes over ownership and control.
80. Places Of Color
 The charming Dash helms DME. A reverse-merger penny stock roll-up that allowed a company called Digital Mafia Entertainment to be listed on Over The Counter stock exchanges. Their premiere product is Places Of Color. Their original plan for the site included exciting content idea like weather and music artist interviews. Now they sell refurbished computers and Internet service as an ethnic front to HP. It's kind of like a Buy.com except without the large selection.
79. Netnoir
Netnoir's slogan, "Taking you there, Wherever there is.", sounds like a bad James Baldwin quote. They have fired anyone who could actually do anything effective and feature content like pictorial-based soap operas. It's member base has also dwindled in a small part due to the success of Blackplanet.com and blackvoices.com. Netnoir is built using Cold Fusion (ALLR), a dying scripting language that is as ineffective as it is cheap. Netnoir was also foolish enough to pay AskJeeves (ASKJ), a dying search engine company, to put a giant search box to put on their page. The search engine takes users to other sites away from their advertisers using a fake natural language parser equivalent in power to Liza.
78. Corey Suspect
Pay to play. 6 Degrees of David Watkins.
77. Douglas Niblet: Touré
Touré is currently a contributing editor to Rolling Stone. Touré has made a career of writing glowing reviews of Bad Boy releases. He used to supply Mays-friendly features to the Source. He has a penchant for looking up Langston Hughes quotes to use in his music reviews to seem deep. He worked as Editor-in-Chief at One World magazine early on, defining it as a leader in middling multi-racial entertainment.
76. Steven Samuel
 The Ogre of online hip-hop is oft referred to as Al Roker with balls. He and his partner / lover Felcia Palmer attempt to run online hip-hop with an iron hand. Always the rebel at UBO, he sent a message to the internal UBO listserv that said, "unsubscribe" after building the only CPS in UBO history.
75. Frank Cooper
 The quiet man ran from responsibility like the dead-beat dad like in the Cheryl "Pepsii" Riley video. He even abandoned employees he personally anointed for senior executive positions. He is currently kicking dirt on his partner surreptitiously and trying to wrest control of the remaining UBO properties for a warm restart. It's not clear if his new Benz SL-500 was paid for by from his record labels stints or the $1.8 bridge loan from Interfase.
74. Urban Direct
 Artist Direct's weak attempt at capitalizing on the urban market. It consisted of copying over all the message boards from the hip-hop and R&B artists to a new niche site no one cared about. The site hasn't been touched since the firings at Artist Direct. You'll have to get your Missy Elliott shoulder pads elsewhere
73. RJ Vilardi
R.J. is Mr. Dowdell's assistant at Volume.com. He answers calls and writes memos. He walks, walks, walks, and he pecks, pecks, pecks. You know your pure content web play is in trouble when assistants have to pitch in and write stories about egg sandwiches and baseball.
72. Miles Rose
 The ousted business development manager from Y2G has restarted his siliconalley.com venture. He left Y2G with a ton of useless business relationships from IPIX to Centerseat. He has now returning to trolling the outskirts of silicon alley fetes for business cards. At least he got a cool mp3 player out of it!
71. McLean Greaves
 Mr. Greaves, who likes to refer to himself as a cybernegro, founded VMI an early web development company that ran a web content play called Café Los Negroes where McLean ran stories about himself, an artsy Canadian techie transplant to the heart of Bed-Stuy living in a crack building that dislikes hip-hop. Volume confused audio recordings in the hallway of McLean's apartment building for cutting edge content, McLean was appointed to the VP of Content Development for Volume. Mclean is the first strike in the VMI curse, however he has now jetted to the west coast to pursue a career in rock music and ginger.
70. Ray J
 Look Brandy. You can't make us like him.
69. Smokey Fontaine
The former music editor of the Source landed the Director of Content spot at Volume.com where he developed cutting edge content such as little 100 pixel by 100 pixel video clips of rappers chilling with strippers. Bounced from Volume to write book on DMX.
68. Rapnetwork.com
 Founded by John Schecter. Anything that has Stretch Armstrong's picture on the front page cannot possibly be hot.
67. BET.com
 BET's online strategy is now in it's third incarnation. It has declared war on all others using the strength of its offline brand and now its larger parent corporation, Viacom. They plan to fight the long war of attrition by soaking up advertiser dollars for a second tier product. Sticking million dollar sponsors in low traffic content areas on the site ought to get them excited. Eventually they will focus on what their core audience is: Young adults willing to calling long distance to abate loneliness and travel to fuck strangers.
66. Volume.com
 Yawn.
65. Dalton Higgins
Dalton Higgins, Toronto-based fashion dread, has made his name with a dull pen and forked tongue. Resells phoner interviews to as many venues as possible. He also lists the free reviews he does on amazon.com on his resume. His favorite technique at causing controversy is leveling charges of racism.
64. Tyrone Thomas
 Tyrone is the former network card installer for Virtual Melanin Inc. who became CTO of Urban Box Office. The second strike in the VMI curse, spent more time practicing Capoeira during meetings than he did integrating technology.
63. Source.com
 A frame-based monstrosity that brings nothing new to the table but a jumbled mess. Any hope of a clear message being sent out is lost in this attempt to throw in everything but the kitchen sink. Basically a website for 20 people to chat on. They're hoping they get some more hip-hop fight footage to keep the traffic numbers up.
62. Urban Magic
 Urban Magic is currently about to close up shop. Once again, Scient botched another company's business plan before they even made it to market. Anne Simmons will have to find another top spot to fill so that she can subject her underlings to long-winded speeches about shopping at Tiffany's and how wonderful it was to work at RUSH. We wonder if Impact will take Barry-Mother-Fucking-Wade back.
61. Biv 10 Records
 Michael Bivins loves producing little boys. The more the merrier. Groups include ABC(6), Subway(4) and now Pee Wee All Stars(10!). What's up? We are still waiting for Sudden Impact. Evidently they aren't young enough. Now the term Boyz 2 Men finally makes sense.
60. Chas Walker and Peter Griffith
 Chas: "Yo Bro! We stuffed ourselves in this little Porsches and we are on our way to floss at Dillon's! I hope there are some waitresses that will recognize I am rich and sit in my lap! "
Peter: "Did you pay Puffy the $49,200.35 we need to get him to nod his head at us tonight?"
Chas: "Yeah. Hey, Tina Imn sure is fine! I'm glad we bought platform. We already know that she doesn't mind a belly after going out with Ben White. Oh boy! We are here!"
Peter: "We are going to win dammit! Chas, please stop that crying shit. Chas, stop spitting on Puffy as you talk. Your embarrassing me."
59. MC Hammer
 M.C. Hammer is back in 2001 with a tell-all biopic on Showtime on how he went from a hot star to selling long distance and dancing for chicken gizzards on television. Don't hurt them hammer.
58. Lisa Shorter
6 degrees of David Watkins. She sued David Watkins after he fired her for getting pregnant.
57. Ben Klipstien
The former Editor-in-Chief of onelevel.com was once responsible for a sprawling empire of content that included 5 articles in 6 months.
56. Jimmy Walker
 Currently operating as a conservative radio host in Utah. He spends his time lamenting on what bad guys limousine liberal are. His favorite targets are Bill Cosby and Tom Joyner.
55. Lisa Lindo
6 Degrees of David Watkins.
54. Marc Gerald
 Marc runs The Syndicate Affiliated. Wesley Snipes is a partner in this imprint dedicated to Donald Goines-esque pulp novels that attempt to convey the most negative, violent, misogynistic, images of poor blacks and Latinos that are marketed to poor ghetto youth. The books also contain CD's of 3rd tier hip-hop cuts. They hope to get kids interesting in reading about ak-47's , bitches, and heroin.
53. Platform
 Hookt recently acquired platform.net in its rollup strategy hoping to consolidate the urban space to look attractive as an acquisition target. The new platform lead by Ben White has everything it should have had from the beginning: the ability to buy things immediately, a key promotional area, clear text and community aspects integrated into the site. All done in up PHP with cute quotes under the logo just like.. urr.. well.. Urban Expose. Platform must have really been in trouble if Hookt acquired them. Battle on Tina!
52. Noah Kerner
 Noah Kerner runs the online equivalent to Delancy Street. Onelevel.com has shed all content and now sells urban apparel and DJ equipment. Maybe they can get a deal to sell gazelles online from Sol Moscot. Noah Kerner cried after the onelevel.com piece appeared on Urban Expose.
51. Mario Van Peebles
 He sure isn't his old man. Sonny Spoon spent this year doing straight to video releases after ruining several subjects that every black filmmaker coveted: The Black cowboy movie (Posse), The Black Panther movie (Panther), and the Black robot movie (Solo). He is now poised to make a comeback playing Malcolm X.
50. Urban Box Office Relaunch Party
 It's was David Watkins's day. It would be bazaar unlike any other that would thrust him into the annals of history. The purpose of the party was three-fold. First it would boost morale of employees. It would also garner press coverage that would make UBO a household world. Third, it would hopefully help Adam impress investors with the possibility of getting laid and how cool they were. The queer thing is that none of the celebrities invited came. As a matter of fact, UBO star power consisted of Big Lez showing up dressed like Mary J. Blige. The sad thing is India's speech was more inspirational and relevant than the CEO's. Oh well, the food was good. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
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Crispus, where can I get a UE100 baby-t for my baby mamas? Did FUBU do the logo for that?
Naw, fo' real where can I cop that... |
greetings all: www.hollah.com has no buzz. hollah is a digital greeting card and gift network. we beta launched on nov. 15th. please come on in and give us some feedback (we have a big fat feedback button on the homepage). with your input we can grow from these humble beginnings to your choice for unique communications. peace and blessings in the coming year!
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Would this be it?
http://www.urbanexpose.com/buzzlist.ue
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http://www.urbanexpose.com/buzzlist.ue
that's the list - of course
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...so basically you're saying that had Master P should have edited Honey magazine originally. Still woulda been corny but not AS.
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cuz' Hammer has no buzz......duh.. |
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Wow, there is a God. Ronin Ro is numero uno. I guess that 10-15K that he got for his "book" is going to have to go to Jerry Heller's Bling Bling fund.
My voting on UE100 for Ro mattered to me more than the Presidential Election.
UE100 is a voting model for the future, no chads and more than two or three candidates.
Here's to the future....
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ugh!!
Fancy this Crispus...how bout writing the whole thing THEN uploading it? |
Crispus,
Is this your way to build anticipation? Send me some of the names, I'll do the copy. |
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FUCK!!!
This Site SUCKS!!!
I don't know why the FUCK you bunch of sorry ASS MUTHFUCKERS even bother visitin' this SORRY ASS SITE!!!
I'd rather shove a 20 inch DILDO up my ASS than to read some of this SHIT that is on this LAME ASS SITE!!!
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>'d rather shove a 20 inch DILDO up my ASS than to read some of this SHIT that is on this LAME ASS SITE!!!
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the entire list is in one of the posts above....i know yall read.. |
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Fuck Me Harder... David Watkins is dat you? |
I noticed on the master-list that you got Sheryl Huggins listed twice...sloppy, dudes. Also, if Kidron isn't in the Top 10, then we've been all been living on a different planet than y'all. Here's to a 2001 where the UBO-embezzlers get to serve some hard-earned bids upstate.
PS Anybody know if there's ever been an attempt to take F.E.D.S. mag on-line or into broadcast? I'd be interested in hearing suggestions from all you smartees here who were so all over blackweather.com. F.E.D.S. is much more interesting, potentially real-world site.
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OOOHH NETNOIR events for the UPPITY URBAN crowd maybe watkins can work with him...hehehe |
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Urban Expose Plans to Go Legit
by Dakota Smith
Urban Expose is going straight. After six months of anonymously critiquing and often skewering urban websites, Urban Expose is planning to launch a bona fide media business. Crispus Attucks, Urban Expose's editor, and the rest of the site's producers, all plan to reveal their identities.
"The time has come for us to shed our anonymity," said Attucks in a phone interview with the Daily. "We've had a tremendous amount of success, but with a move into other media platforms and the growth we want to do, you can't do that with anonymity."
Set for relaunch early next year, Urban Expose will examine all sections of urban media, from television and film to radio and publishing, and, yes, all the new sections will include Urban Expose's now-famous message boards. An accompanying print magazine is also being considered, according to Attucks, who said Urban Expose would bring in revenues through advertising banners and conferences.
Urban Expose has already scheduled a Jan. 30, 2001 conference at a yet-to-be-named Brooklyn location. The one-day free event, billed as a town hall to discuss the urban space, will feature panels of speakers from urban portal companies, according to Internet strategist Siddiq Bello, who is acting as a liaison between Urban Expose and the proposed speakers.
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"We've had a tremendous amount of success, but with a move into other media platforms and the growth we want to do, you can't do that with anonymity."
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As far as his identity, Attucks said he would unmask himself sometime before the Jan. 30th conference. Exactly who the Urban Expose editor is has become something of a parlor game in Silicon Alley. Even Bello, working to set up the conference, said he doesn't know the editor's identity, and that the two men's communications have largely been through IM and e-mail.
In July, Inside.com fingered McLean Greaves, formerly of Volume.com and Cafe Los Negroes, as Crispus Attucks. But Inside.com quickly retracted the statement and issued an apology to Greaves.
Asked if Greaves had threatened to file a suit against Inside.com or reached a settlement with Inside.com, Theodore Weis, Greaves' attorney, declined comment on the case. Inside.com also refused to comment, stating that they could not talk about legal matters.
Kevin Dowdell, CEO of Volume.com, declined to guess Attucks' identity, but he did say that, despite the sometimes blistering articles published on the site, Urban Expose has provided a much-needed critique of urban sites.
"I go to Urban Expose and listen to the feedback and respond to it," said Dowdell. "Sometimes the harshest critics can be your best friends."
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"I go to Urban Expose and listen to the feedback and respond to it. Sometimes the harshest critics can be your best friends."
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Dowdell said it would be difficult to speculate on whether Urban Expose could pull off transforming itself into a moneymaking business.
"I would guess that the challenges to being successful in the urban space are pretty clear by now," said Dowdell.
If the new, revamped Urban Expose sounds like a ho-hum media business, rather than the provocative news and gossip site that it is now, Attucks argues that his site has already given away millions of dollars in free consulting advice and has a built-in audience. Indeed, Attucks is sounding more like a seasoned new-media executive than a renegade editor.
"The urban space is tight now," said Attucks, who said his new re-launched site would cut costs by running on a small staff. "But there's a lot of potential, a lot of money out there, and great promise for the space. People think we just cover urban new media, but we've just started."
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i see many here dont read...i was mistaken |
Newcomers,
Check yourselves. Look before you speak. Stop repeating what's already been posted.
And if someone would rather shove a 20 inch dildo up their ass instead of reading these posts, well....... I'll leave that alone. |
I wonder...did Lisa Jones get a kick back for the usage of her title "Bulletproof Diva?" Or is that just a blatant copyright infringement? I can't believe the publisher of that book didn't have a coronary if they didn't get permission. |
okay so are we gonna only get 3 a day? you had me on a roll..i want more. |
Reading SUCKS!!!
Why would anyone wanna READ this CRAP???
Even worse who would RESPOND to the BULLSHIT that is POSTED here???
And it takes talent to shove a 20" DILDO up yer ASS!!!
May be you all should try it sometime, since you got nutin' betta' ta' do!!!
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yea, can we just do a recap of the top 10 people... especially seeing how sites like 360hiphop are up there like 3 tiems just with different spellings |
Agreed. There needs to be some way for UE to consolidate the different votes for the same thing cause 360hiphop would be #3 or #4 instead of #12 on the list. And what's up with there being two #97's on this list, are y'all trying to prove that you can fuck up a tracklisting as bad as Def Jam? |
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And it takes talent to shove a 20" DILDO up yer ASS!!!
DAVEY will leave that up DILDO shoving up to you. You should be looking for a job. |
Do any of you really believe the fragile wizard behind the machine will come clean? are you all crazy? Pictire Crispus and his goons coming out clean @ a bklyn townhall mtg! Picture that. do you know how quickly someone will take a SHANK to them? Like THAT- a razor to the face. Scared for life, literally. Not I, but there are crazy people out there. But some of those crazy people have been made crazier BY this platform, BY UE, BY Crispus. Then there are the people who'll step to him because he's using the black revolutionary name, Crispus, and go in his mouth because he's on some divide and conquer shit!
NO WAY CRISPUS WILL REVEAL HIMSELF.
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I agree, jonny k. What makes Crispus think it will be all good once he pulls back the curtain and reveals himself? This site has gotten way too out of control for that at this point.
I for one would love to know who is the brains behind the outfit that has kept me entertained every morning (almost) for the past 6 months.
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If anything, the press for UE going legit is in sync with the UE 100. From a PR point of view, Crispus may just be yanking the media chain, and saving a great deal of money on promoting the site. What better way to introduce new eyes to the ways of UE than having the buzz list up and ready (hint, Crispus). I certainly do not believe that he will reveal himself. I think the plans to make the site a profitable tool is true but, I have top agree with the meaning of johnny k's post. There's a lot of anger and bitterness waiting to bust. I would hate to see the same drama that plagued the mid-90's rap biz scene spill (literally) over into the mentality of our dot com world. Crispus is a smart mofo, he has gone through great lengths to protect his identity and he understands the game. After 6 months of running his brand of game I wouldn't think it would be wise for him to unmask. As a culture we like our superheros anonymous, and tend to resent them when they open up and become one of us. "Crispus" himself, whomever he may be, isn't flawless and my encounter a great deal of backlash from the industry that is so freely criticized on UE's message boards. Or, he can position himself as "the shit of all shits" and be the fuckin man of the urban space. Big risks, big rewards.
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My advice to anyone looking for a job is obvious, and yet people don't seem to get it. Stay away from the internet. Or
at least stay away from unstable ones. (Of course you don’t realize they’re unstable until you get a pat on the ass and
pink slap.) I feel just terrible for people who latched onto the internet craze and got themselves a specialty degree or
certificate in HTML programming and development. 90% of internet start-ups not linked to an already established
business will go under within the next 5 years. That is pathetic.
The problem with the internet is not that different than the problems most small businesses have. It’s only
heightened. With internet companies all you need to get going is half an idea, a staff of five, and a rich Uncle. The
company founders do not necessarily need to know what they are doing to start a website. And that is really what’s
killing all these websites. CEOs of start-ups act like teenagers at Abercrombie with Mommy’s credit card and it’s
disgusting. The unchecked cash flow in obscene and it is destroying our economy.
Quick story. I have three uncles that all own their own businesses. One owns a pool cleaning company in Phoenix,
one owns a meat packing plant in the suburbs of Phoenix, and one owns a handful of Budget Rental Car dealers in
Colorado and Utah. They own their own businesses but that doesn’t make them businessmen. That makes them a pool
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I wonder why it's so hard to believe Crispus will out himself? He could have motivations we know nothing about. I'm not crazy about the 'town hall' setting but I'm pretty sure it'll happen if not then, then soon after. We do like our heroes anonymous, but maybe the heroes get tired of entertaining us all the time. |
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Crispus,
You are good at promoting your site (I think. I need to know how many resources are available to you before I make an honest assessment of your skills.) You are not good at editing and content provision.
There are so many mistakes in the much heralded UE 100 (Which, I suppose, was to be a crown jewel in the UE collection) that I am embarrassed for you. Spend time and pride on your shit man. You criticize others for similar gaffs and then fall prey to the same traps. Me thinks you are all about the benjamins baby. Which, if ya'll haven't figured out yet, is THE fatal mistake webpreneurs make. I DONT NEED YOUR OR ANYBODY'S WEB SITE! Give me a good reason to visit and I will take the time to visit. Give me shit shined up good and you get the gas face. (read: UBO, Volume, Hookt, 360hiphop, etc...)
What the fuck are you doing? And why???? |
P.S. Take my clout if you please. Give it to that stupid cat that was criticizing Ed Dunn Last week. That would make as much sense as this list.
Why are there people listed twice in the UE 100???? Why are there heads of companies AND the companies they head on the same list????
My sister could have done better than this and I dont have a sister. |
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I have no idea who Crispus is, but I bet he and Shann James work together. So Shann, convince Crispus to let you write from now on. |
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I agree I expected more from the lsit, and the typos, duplicate numbers etc. are inexcusable since I think Crispus is a great writer overall. I can only assume he'll read the posts and fix the problems (or hire a copyeditor to do this for him so it doesn't get posted like this at all). This is too valuable a site to have it plummet b/c of bad editing and rush jobs. |
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Many-a-yall blastin' UE for typos, double entries and so forth - yet still come back here for the content.
You cant possibly be checkin for UE for mistakes and misspellings...maybe you need to adopt a sister to show Crispus how shit is done...
"I DONT NEED YOUR OR ANYBODY'S WEB SITE! Give me a good reason to visit and I will take the time to visit."
whoa.
Well my freind, you, myself and many others spend 'nuff time up in here- meaning UE is obviously doin exactly what this site was meant to do...get hits, people and spark convo exposing the bullshit sides of this industry many call "urban".. |
i agree - crispus should let shaan james write some shit, he's the funniest cat in here by a mile. can write for me anytime |
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Shann..it must feel good to have people hold your jock in public.. |
hey hawk, read the whole thread. the link is up toward the top. you can see the whole list. i could paste it in here, but i figured i'd make you work for it. peace. |
and for all y'all complaining about the list -- i truly think its just the list that's generated by our entries. that's why you get the misspellings and duplications. "crispus" will work it out. I'm sure he's got his own list based on those entries that he's going by for the "real" list that will be displayed here over the coming days (weeks?) that make sense? it does to me. |
**Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
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Okay...if we gonna blast websites for minor glitches...lets get on Urban247.com
Maybe my mindset aint too "urbane", after all..I live in NYC but often travel to "suburban & rural" areas, so maybe i dont fit in.... but i seem to be havin a hard time gettin inside Urban247.com
Now..i registered a lil while ago, but never recieved any newsletters...cool...i still never got any party passes form UE, so i aint expecting much.
So I head back to the site (U247) today using the latest IE, since I dont have shit else to do but collect my check, practice my Quark skills, and come here to UE- and try gettin in the front page of U247-where a "urban" couple seem to be lookind down in disgust at......ahh...im not quite sure, but anyway ..
It appears that in order to enter the site, you hafta "subscribe" first, but that can be quickly avoided my simply hittin the submit button, which takes the user to a confirmation page saying "thank you for registering..."
okay..so now i see i dont hav to register, but it still dont tell you shit about how to get in the site.
So after runnin your mouse over the logo..it appears there is a link to the main features, and "The Rebirth of Blackness" seems not to work...
The point here is not smash Urban247, but Max...if the place you "work" at has flaws, why run off at the mouth about UE?...aint nobody perfect, but damn this place "seems" to have what it takes to keep average websurfers/media cats such as myself, and many others coming back......i sincerly hope Urban247 can eventually do the same..
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Ohsokool,
You right. And that is why you are Oh So Kool. |
When are you Negro's going to figure out we live in a republican society? Remember the pledge of alligence you learned in "They Schools." "... And to the Republic for which it stand, One nation under god." Hmm, it doesn't mention the Democratic party in the pledge. The reason why it doesn't is because the Democratic party is a front. It's all one system, ran by the same people, and funded by the same money. There's is no difference, except in the Symbols! Ever wonder why the Democratic Party's symbol is a fucking DONKEY? And Why its always conditioned for so called Minorites to vote Democratic? Its a Insult!! There calling us JACK ASSES!!! The Donkey is a animal that is obstinate, hard headed, and stubborn. The symbol of the republican party is a elephant, stable mind thinker, a conservative, and vegetarian. The symbol of the Donkey represents Nubians everywhere! We can not depend on false leaders misleading us. Their plans never included us. If you didn't figure that out by now then, YOUR A NEGRO!!! And know that you have to be in the bloodline to have a high position such as the presidency. All of these White Devils are related!! Why do you think Colin Powell has so much juice? Its because he is blood related to George Bush. Do some research!!!
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That last message about political parties is the most ignorant shit I have ever read. The pledge of allegance stating "to the republic for ..." has nothing to do with political parties. The United States is a Republic stupid! We elect representatives who vote in laws, thus as all individuals do not vote for all laws, we are in a Representative democracy, also know as a Republic. If you are gonna get agitated and start using the symbols of the parties as metephors for who votes for them, why was Abraham Lincoln a Republican? You need to stop reading the Cliffs notes to "A Pale White Horse" and get a fucking clue! |
Anyone peep this week's Voice article on UE?
There's something to be said about mystery, Crispus. I really don't want to know who runs the show. You should stay behind the mask like Zorro, the Scarlet Pimpernel or Bill Clinton(who we all know is Hillary in drag...that's why the Monica thing didn't faze her)
You're revolutionary? How? Are you encouraging the economic growth of the African American community? Taking "each one, teach one" to a whole new level?
What you're doing isn't new. That's one of the reasons it's working.
There's a difference between an opportunist and a revolutionary.
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You need a meeting with Mel Gibson, you both have some Conspiracy Theory issues.
Educate yourself. |
Speaking of conspiracy--Look up the history of Christmas. Don't be deceived. Not hating on you all buying gifts, etc., just educating... |
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I have a better ideal for people to research...
Look beyond the history of Christmas and look at your spiritual and family relationship..like one rapper said..would you give your only son for humanity?
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Jose...the only thing missin from that shit you wrote is a busy street corner, mic with speaker and a milkcrate to stand on.
Live a little, experience a little..then speak.. |
Great Site UE. Making fun of others downfall. Here's some more funny stuff... not
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A Season of Discontent for Laid-Off 'Dot-Commers'
Internet: For those who gambled and lost, the holidays bring a painful lesson in humility.
By P.J. HUFFSTUTTER, Times Staff Writer
SAN FRANCISCO--Squeezing his muscular frame through a drunken crowd at the Potrero Brewing Co., David Ashby reaches a pool table covered with free "dot-com" tchotchkes and surveys the pile of corporate throwaways.
The 28-year-old, who lost his Web design job in October, unzips a blue duffel bag and begins to fill it.
Last Christmas, he gave his dad new skis, his brother a Sega Dreamcast and his mom a 24-karat gold necklace. This year, he is forced to circle the giveaway pool table with dozens of other Internet workers.
In goes the tie-dyed T-shirt from Oracle for dad, and glitter cream from ChickClick.com for mom. He snaps up WebTV baseball caps, eyeing them for his brother. "It's either take this stuff or I'll have nothing to give," Ashby said with a shrug.
Christmas in the dot-com world has arrived this year not with a jingle but with a spirit-jarring thunk.
Only months ago, corporate America seethed with envy at all the money lavished on the dot-coms and was off-put by workers' pompous attitude toward the cubicle drones who just didn't get the revolution.
But the devastating crash of Internet companies and the crescendo of layoffs over the last few months have brought the dot-com world face to face with its first grim winter--a once-unimaginable season of discontent.
"I called my mom last night and asked her to fax me recipes, especially one for peanut butter balls," said Jeannie Long, a 26-year-old dot-commer who lost her job in October and has yet to find a new one. "I'm making cards and cookies for everyone this year."
For many of those who gambled on the Internet dream and lost, the holidays have forced them to face their families and swallow their pride. In many ways, these risk-takers are now embarrassed that they were so thoroughly drawn into the outrageous promises of the new economy.
But beneath the penny-pinching, the deepest cut felt by some of the dot-goners is a spiritual one--a loss of youthful idealism and a painful lesson in humility.
A Dream That's Over
Years from now, when people point to the one moment when the boundless optimism behind the new economy truly died, they may well turn to the holiday season of 2000--a fateful time when Silicon Valley looked under its tree and found only chocolate-chip cookies and free T-shirts.
"I can't take hearing of others' success when all of our life went into this dream and it's over," said Matt Hagemann, who, with his wife, Tracey, was laid off from Irvine-based Bluetorch in September.
Last year, the Hagemanns launched a pair of Web sites devoted to women in extreme sports. Mutual acquaintances introduced the couple to Bluetorch, a new-media firm backed by the billionaire founders of chip designer Broadcom Corp.
The Hagemanns sold their company to Bluetorch. Within a week, they also sold their Fort Collins, Colo., home for $280,000 and bought a three-bedroom house in Newport Beach for more than a half-million dollars. Their 7-year-old daughter, Hannah, entered a new school.
Tracey, 31, started her new job as senior manager of the female sports group right away. Matt, 41, who left his job of 15 years at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, became a marketing manager in May.
Three and a half months later, the couple walked into the office and learned that they were among the more than half of Bluetorch's employees to be dismissed. Matt landed a position as a geologist at a Huntington Beach environmental firm; Tracey still hasn't found work.
Now, as they hang ornaments on their tree, the couple are desperately trying to sell their house by the end of the year, when their severance money runs out.
"Thanksgiving was really hard," Tracey said. "I don't even want to think about Christmas."
Getting Back to Basics
For Rich Schwerin, a founding member of the recently defunct TheMan.com in San Francisco, there are just too many parallels between the holiday culture of consumerism and the excess of the dot-com world.
No one on Schwerin's list is getting presents this year.
Schwerin, who was the fourth person hired at the online men's magazine and was a top editor on the site, was depicted as a poster child of the Internet boom in a 1999 Time magazine cover story.
"I remember seeing the magazine and thinking, 'Wow, we are geniuses. We're going to mint money,' " said Schwerin, 32. "Now, all I can think is, 'Wow, did I do a lot wrong.' "
Topping his regrets were the long workweeks, which Schwerin says ate away at his marriage and ultimately led to the couple splitting. In mid-October, Schwerin signed divorce papers.
Two weeks later, TheMan.com ran out of funding and closed its doors, laying off nearly 100 employees.
He could afford some gifts, he said. It's the thought of splurging that turns his stomach and prevents him from heading to a mall.
"I just want to reassemble my life and get back to basics," said Schwerin, who is thinking about moving to Guatemala, where he just returned from a vacation.
Schwerin's tightfisted reaction is being shared by many of the 31,056 Internet workers who have lost their jobs this year as of November. Job cuts and layoffs across all business sectors are piling up this holiday season, hitting everything from the health-care and service industries to the financial sector to the technology realm, according to recruitment firm Challenger Gray & Christmas Inc.
Dot-com workers have been particularly shocked by these cuts, as their employers routinely boasted of having tens of millions of investment dollars stashed away. When the venture capital community stopped feeding the corporations, the businesses started the steady and natural process of winding down.
"I expect things to be bad throughout December because many companies are realizing they're not going to make it and just giving up," said John A. Challenger, chief executive of Challenger, Gray & Christmas. "Next month, the companies will evaluate their holiday sales, which are not strong. I expect it's going to be a brutal January."
Homemade Gifts Over Gadgets
For those who can manage it, silence has become the easiest way to weather the economic and emotional storm during the holidays. At Thanksgiving, writer Long knew her parents were worried about her financial situation.
They had read the papers and seen the stories playing out in California. All those companies going out of business. Over plates filled with turkey and gravy, they questioned their daughter.
Are you OK, Jeannie? Do you need money?
"I knew things weren't good, but I couldn't admit it," said Long, 26. "It was humiliating, so I told them everything was fine."
Days later, the company she was freelancing for--Los Angeles-based IFuse.com--folded, owing her $2,200, she said. A visit to small-claims court yielded nothing.
She had other jobs on the side, some for Web sites that had also shut down. Yet she was counting on the IFuse money to last her through the holidays and the end of the year.
She had no choice now but to tell her family. At least she wasn't alone, she reasoned. Nearly all of her friends have been laid off.
This Christmas she is thinking of giving peanut butter balls, in part because they require fewer, and cheaper, ingredients than chocolate-chip cookies.
It's a thoughtful gift, one that could even seem extravagant in a world where everyone works 14-hour days. But the truth is far more basic: She has only $300 to her name and growing credit card debt.
Amid all the fear and loathing, there also is a pervading resilience among those who have been downsized by the new economy. The industry may be smaller, but this is their field of training and expertise. Budgets are tighter, companies are savvier, yet the freebies still exist.
You just need to know where to look and, like David Ashby, be able to ignore the shame.
Ashby knows his parents won't care about the strange gifts they'll receive this year. They love him no matter what, he reasons.
His girlfriend, on the other hand, could get peeved.
Picking up another shirt, Ashby notices a large yellow beer stain covering the white neckline. He studies it for a moment, a grimace darkening his blue eyes and pale face.
Has it really reached the point where he must give soiled garments from failing Internet ventures to his loved ones?
He stuffs the garment into his bag and moves to the next open spot on the tchotchkes table.
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Merry Xmas...
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Crispis, your identity is irrelevant. Who really cares who YOU are? Why DO you want to reveal yourself? Why did you hide your identity in the first place?
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"I remember seeing the magazine and thinking, 'Wow, we are geniuses. We're going to mint money,' " said Schwerin, 32. "Now, all I can think is, 'Wow, did I do a lot wrong.' "
This is price to pay for all of those, including myself who take certain risks in life.
Re: the whole internet crash and burn thing:
Its been said before and will be stated may times over, it was all bound to happen, and many (including myself) saw big, and fast money to be made. The smart ones with biz experience got out, took the money, benifits and bounced quick...many of us decided to play it safe, stick with our solid companys and traditional media for a while, sit back and observe...while many just plain bought into the dream and hype associated with somthin new.
Yes...the internet and the way its trying to be used as big biz is brand spankin new...so essentially...no one knows how the fuck to make long term ,com biz work.
One thing is...when EVERYONE is "online", and IF is becomes a solid industry like print, radio and television, only then will the possibilites to make good steady money come about.
Contrary to what many ov us online think...most people do NOT have 24 hr accsess to computers.
..and to those laid off who hav to give a tye dye T Shirt for Chistmas?
read a few posts above, and think about the real meaning of X-mas..think about the commercial hype generated that says gift giving is a must...sounds like a bunch of sob stories, but at least your alive to find other places of employment and see another holiday.
at least now...you have experience as to what big biz entails, and what taking risks is all about--looking b4 you leap, and havin' a plan.
happy holidays
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Peanut Butter balls...?
Virtual cards, a Hallmark and/or a phone call would be cheaper and more thoughtful.
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Even more pathetic than these dream-broken sob stories is the underlying stench of greed. One man wants to "reassemble" his life after long hours at the office preempted his marriage and led to divorce. Good luck homie. Maybe the marriage wasn't strong in the first place, but anytime the pursuit of money is placed before the essentials of life you will feel the self-inflicted pains of your own stabbing. I do feel sorry for these people, but not as much as the man at the gas station who cleaned my windows with newspaper, or the homeless man in front of my office building wandering listlessly...Christmas, bitchmas. We're all somebody's bitch unless we know the truth. |
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yeah those sob stories are lame. "ohhhhh my god i have to sell my half million dollar home. *sniffle, sniffle*"
big deal some people are starving I could care less about their sob stories. they thought they were so better than everyone else now reality is setting in.
at least the girl with 300 bucks to her name can go to her parents for money.
was that shit supposed to make me cry? WTF? seeing kids starving and with one of their arms chopped off makes me wanna cry, not this lame shit.
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I wish people will stop their boohooing and doomsaying about the rise and fall of the internet, just work on your ideas and make it happen. Failure is a nutral component of success. Keep it moving.
Good fortune to all who strive.
There's money to made in every industry on earth.
Happy holidays to all. Personally, I like the crass commercialism of the season, its fun. The only time of the year you can be shamelessly greedy. Forget the spirtuality, do a better job working that into you everyday life, enjoy the foolish spoils of St. Nick.
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The pagan shit is fun. Pagans knew how to do it up.
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The issue isn't about having fun. Duh. We can have fun and enjoy ourselves in numerous ways. [Shameless greed] and "foolish spoils" is best left alone.
www.historychannel.com--will show you the paganism that led to what you now call Christmas. |
Just wanted to give a hap holidays to all the brothers and sisters and white folks who visit this site. About half of the posts are worthless but I gotta check it out everyday.
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Ahh, the holiday season. Hanukah is here. The season where we celebrate a time when our people went out with swords and chopped off the heads of those white devil infidel Selucids. Oh the memories!
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Has anyone heard the 'Source Hip Hop Millenium' CD?
Wow! That's some true embarrassing shit!
I figure if we have some hard recession go on maybe this nasty commercial hip hop will disappear...maybe it's good news that cracker Bush is here now?...
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Damn this expose shit is full of coward ass bitch niggaz. Punk pussy haters who can't even use their real names, when they want to vent off on someone's dirty laundry. Suck A big Floppy Donkey Dick on your your beloved SATAN (SANTA) Clause Day. |
>>>Perhaps that is why in this first year the urban sites and their principles occupy a large amount of the No-Buzz list.<<<
well, that would be the urban sites and their PRINCIPALS... Most of the assholes on the no buzz list don't have any principles (hence their lack of buzz). |
I wish people would just stop crying...this internet bubble was bound to burst. Anytime hordes of companies get started with no plans of being profitable in the foreseeable future, you are gambling on a dream.
Are you all crazy? They must have thought that money grew on trees and that there would never be any accountability. A fuckin "brand" isn't worth all that much if it can't translate into tangible dollars.
The ease of entry crowded the market until ultimately everyone lost. People had stupid ideas, that greedy venture capitalists jumped on (counting on the greater fool theory...which worked for far longer than I would have ever imagined.) and now that the emporer has been revelead to actually (surprise) have no clothes on, people expect us to weep for them?
Go back to whatever you were doing two years ago or so and stop fucking crying... |
It's funny to see Corey Podolsky's name up there (even if it is misspelled).
Indeed, I blame Corey for UBO's demise.
"You gotta have faith" said Corey.
"I know things are fucked up right now, but they are supposed to be fucked up right now" said Corey.
Corey was the most pathetic, untalented, inexperienced (yet arrogant) shitheel it has ever been my unfortunate lot to work with.
Indeed, the IXL fiasco was Corey's fault. Of course, Adam and those guys hired him and gave him his position and I suppose in that way they are to blame too but Corey himself is the only one that really has to live with himself and the fabulous disaster he concocted at UBO.
Someone should do a bio on him for Urban Expose.
From what I understand, UBO was his second web job ever and I've spoken with a couple of guys from Sonicnet since UBO went under and none of them had any accolades for him either.
Corey is a piece of shit, plain and simple...a piece of shit that was only ever interested in his own ass. Not in the dream that George Jackson (or even Adam and Frank) had of creating a creative space for the "urban demographic" whatever the hell that meant (or means now).
I know that UE gives Arzie a lot of grief but I cant bang on Arzie. It was my relationship with RZ that allowed me the freedom to remind Corey at every opportunity of just how little respect for him that I had.
I remember one time, after embarrassing him in a meeting in front of his entire staff, Corey went to Arzie to ask him to "reel me in." Arzie and I spoke about it and I laughed.
"He thinks you have no respect for him." said RZ.
"I dont" I replied, laughing. "Actually, I think he's a piece of shit not fit to shine my fucking shoes and I will never, for the life of me, understand why it is that this person is somehow in a position to tell me how to do my job."
I still cant figure out why Corey was ever in a position to tell me how to do my job. I dont know if anyone out there will ever see this, but I must say that, like the cartoon representation of an orcish little fuck with a bomb in his hand, Corey is pure poison and the fool that would offer that shitball a job after the fabulous fucking disaster he perpetrated at UBO might as well ask for a bullet in the head. |
99.9% of these urban sites are doomed from the start. The way we utilize the internet right now is basically a mirage.
Eventually the virtual world must become a gateway to the real world.
The five-year plan is a thing of the past. Survival will require the ability to change direction every three to six months as new technology comes along.
Millions of dollars and years of time have been wasted on on the Web, but it's only about 3% complete.
Will you whiny, self-important, ass-kissing, short-term thinking, negative "urban" executives please just get on the fucking bus???
Otherwise run up in your cribs now, crack your doors, and watch the real players step on the field. |
Yo Cabal,
Not sure why yer hatin' on Corey so hard -- you sound like the average bitter ex-employee. As a senior Sonicnet vet and someone who's worked in this space since Netscape was Mosaic, I found Corey to be a great co-worker who was well respected company-wide. And for the record, UE, he was very involved with the roll-out of FlashRadio -- ask Nicholas or anyone else there at the time.
Seems like UBO's corporate dysfunction has bred much dis-functioning.
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Merry Christmas to all the UE posters out there
Here is my personal no buzz list
1. Sites that have you sign up for there Newsletters, upcoming events and other stuff and you never recieve a damn thing
2. People who come on the UE board and plug their website like it is the greatest thing since call waiting and the site is totally WACK!!!
3. People who post THE WHOLE DAMN ARTICLE. LOOK TO ALL OF YOU NEW TO THE WEB.... POST THE DAMN LINK!!!!!! Shit because some of the damn stories are bullshit and many of them are old. If you want to like CNN at least post some updated shit
4. People who give a FUCK who Crispus is!! Who gives a damn the funniest shit about the board was Motherfuckers who were acting like they were going to put out a Mob hit out on the brother and they could not even beat their own DICK in a FIGHT!!!!
5. People who talk about I know what urban is? My question is what the fuck is Urban??? Nobody knows because it is not a true hard Demographic. Somebody emailed me about what I thought Urban was well here is my response..
1. What do you think of this "urban industry" and the idea of an urban
industry?
Well I have always believed simply this, it is very hard to define urban.
Most marketing demos are broken up into three categories
A. Age
B. Income
C. Race
Now here is the problem it crosses all three. Think about yourself..... I
assume that you are between 28-34. What do you really have in common with
somebody that is 21, 18 or even 25 for that matter, yea you both might like
Jay-Z but I doubt that you are going to go to his concert. And therein lies
the problem. What I have consulted people is to look more at income and
age because that is where you will see some synergies between people. A
white "urban" professional knows Jay-Z but can also talk to you about your 401K
and your investment fund, sorry but your younger person could careless about
these things. So I think once again we need to do age demos and income and
market that way. The videogame market is a perfect example of that, "Urban"
Icons Randy Moss and Allen Iverson hawk their video games do you think that
either one is going to be in a Benz ad anytime soon I doubt it. Now look at
Tiger Woods and Kenya Moore totally two different people but considered
"Urban" she is doing Cadillac and Tiger is doing Buick. Sting ass sung on a
Rap tune with Puffy, but look who they got to do the Jag commercial
STING!!!! Because he does not bring that excess baggage that Puffy has.
So I say do not get caught up in "Urban" because there is no TRUE URBAN
demos. To be a demo you must be defined and it is not.
And my LAST NO BUZZ......
Motherfuckers who think that you are going to make money on the internet just because you put up a site. Here is a little Business 101. To have a business you must have one of the two; a Goods or Services that you sell!!!!!! Damn how are is that. So for all of my internet folks remember R.U. Sinister's Golden Rule. Sell SHIT OR OFFER SHIT THAT PEOPLE WITH GOOD CREDIT WANT!!!! Hip Hop, Urban or whatever the white folks are calling us this week are not buying shit on the net. But Upscale Black Americans are. Because per capita Blacks are making higher purchases than whites. So merry chrismas stop being haters and enjoy the DAMN BOARD it is ONLY SOMEBODY'S FUCKING OPINION!!!!
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damn it's bitter cold up here (Connecticut). I need to get back down to Florida because I lost all my tolerance for low teens and single digits the day I left for school.
anyway speaking of jay-z, check out this shit:
http://www.ghettotours.com/realvideo/jayz.ram
I hope you all had a good festivus, christmas, 'mas (no christ), whatever and are ready to tackle another year in internet time. remember only the strong will survive.
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Urban is a politically-correct term for saying your're black-orientated but you willing to appeal to other races to please your investors and advertisers fear of a black planet....
There is no better example of 'urban' than the series 'New York Undercover'. If you remember how it was good the first couple of seasons (hip hop, baby daddy issues) and how they went out in the last season (Tommy?)...that's the definition of urban....
As far as urban hip hop gear or any retail, I never believe in selling to one customer at a time (low margin) over the Internet but rather in bulk as a distributor or brander where the real cost-saving and higher margins come from. That's why your friends on fashion row are not selling their shit over the net...get a clue
Content? Until people start paying for it, consider everything from BET.com, BlackPlanet.com, BlackVoices to UrbanExpose.com to be nothing but somebody personal hobby...the only thing the Internet does is make it easy for people to publish their zine - it never promised to make it profitable. Only content that is profitable is the x-rated stuff and that shouldn't be a surprise...
Somebody please prove to me that you have to have a million users to attract advertisers (remember that one-in-a-million spam campaign?). I can show you several Black-owned physical magazine with less than 15K users with plenty of brand-name advertisers and they are distributed for free...
I rather UE create a 2001prediction list. Here is mine:
-George Bush is going to talk the nation into a recession and that's where the real fun begins
-NetNoir will be acquire by Radio One or another Black media conglomerate similiar to what happen to Black Voices and Africana.com.
-Only sites that will be around will be the ones where people are bootstrapping it themselves or have a kick-ass & cheap management and empowered employees. Those who are frontin & flossin while their company is still begging for handouts from VCs will meet their fate by the end of 2nd quarter..thanks to GWB as I indicated earlier...
-Hate him all you want but Master P will still make more money than Puff Daddy in 2001.....
Happy Holidays and all you peeps out there holding up your own web sites....don't give up no matter what they say..no one owns this space or have a clue....
PS: All you motherfuckers keep bitchin about people plugging their sites here.....it's only about 20-30 people here posting and I doubt of them are mavens (read the tipping point) so stop hating somebody for doing their own some shit...I'm glad to be around people who can publish their own shit... |
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I very much agree with CABAL Corey was/is a piece of shit. I'm sure The One Who Knows is Corey or his wife.
PS: the best decision Corey ever made was to hire that piece of ass assistant Michelle. Aaaahh heaven. We all had a good time fuckin with her ;-P
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Since our much heralded 100 list hsn't developed beyond 97(unless you check the actual page) here's an expose' on an urban eatery, Manna's @ 125 and 8th ave that happened this past Friday.
Aiight, so I just came outta Mart 125 with my Mom's mudcloth coat in hand and hungry as hell. Rather than deal with this shorty down on 118th and Freddy 'cause her attitude is shitty, I figure I'll go over to Manna's and bust a fat grub.
I got my heavy ass soul food platter in hand and I step up to pay. It's mad crowded behind the counter and there's a whole lotta chatter from the Asian lady (who looks like she runs the joint) to the cooking staff. I get my change and then she lets out the loudest shriek I had ever heard. Behind her there were these huge ass vats of soup that they heat in the ovens... and she stepped right in one, Cream o' Spinach I believe. She couldn't get that shoe and sock off fast enough, she ended up burning her leg pretty bad, all the way up to the top o' the shin.
BUT, did they throw out the now dirty soup? Hell no. I watched this little mofo pick it up, and go out to the buffet area and set it in the serving table. Totally fucked up. The cashier saw my face and he instanly gave me my money back. I gave him the food. I went and dealt with shorty with the shitty atittude instead. I figure I'd rather be poisoned by someone that I know than not.
Is this relevant to the UE100? Hell no. But I figure this is as entertaining as any other post since late last week, and just as asinine. At least you won't go to Manna's and fuck with the Cream o' Spinach and get a taste of a woman's old odor eater to boot. Hey, I made a funny... get it "to boot?"
I am Dayscar's biggest critic
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OK here's a resonably valid post. Since everyone is worried about how their dot com will do, here's what you will be doing it on, the revamped world wide web. Check out the white papers.
http://www.infinibandta.org/data/press/illuminata.pdf |
I want my job back at the source! I can write in the 4th grade level. |
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Content? Until people start paying for it, consider everything from BET.com, BlackPlanet.com, BlackVoices to UrbanExpose.com to be nothing but somebody personal hobby...the only thing the Internet does is make it easy for people to publish their zine - it never promised to make it profitable. Only content that is profitable is the x-rated stuff and that shouldn't be a surprise...
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well people do pay for it. they're called advertisers or sponsors. BET recently signed a $3 mil dollar sponsorship deal with Verizon Communications (over 3 years) and I would assume that similar "portal sponsorship" are in the woodwork.
you CAN make money providing free content. it's just a matter of how much money. when you read about yahoo saying they need to add more resources that users will pay for it's not because they aren't making money from providing free content. 1 bil in annual revs isn't too bad for most companies. it's just that they need to make even more money to attempt to justify their 17 billion dollar market value and to prove that they are growing.
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This site has offered a lot of good information for people who are trying to build their own sites. But it has also seen many stupid ass magazine writers trying to start fights by posting shit and then posting under another name to blame another writer. You Magazine writer bitches are cowards. Why don't you go back to typing your weak shit in print and getting your hair braided during your lunch hour like the bitches you are? Stop sucking on the nuts of those more talented (and paid) than you will ever be. |
You all wanted to hear from me so here I am. I think there are a lot of dickblowers out there who want me to fall off but it'll never happen (until I decide to leave). On this very page you have Falxwon popping crap, and on the street, I hear rumblings about Kris Ex and other writers saying all sorts of way out shit they'd never tell me in person. The reality is that most of these writers are nerds who think they're gangsters simply because they ride on the dicks of MCs they wish they could've been-- but couldn't since they have no skills. These pretentious shitheads had years of being in this business and having friends put them on and yet have never delivered anything memorable. They are merely "well-known by-lines" as disposable as the magazines they write for. Or failed novelists or screenwriters. But now these jealous unemployed bum bitches want to come on this shitty site and take potshots at my name. While these bitches throw false information around (especially about a lawsuit), I'm doing my thing, staying paid and making even bigger moves. But most importantly, I'm bringing new shit to the writing game (as I did when I brought the entire vocabulary these bitches still use in their shitty Vibe articles). So if unemployed bum bitch hacks wanna put me on the shitty little No Buzz List, go right ahead. It won't stop me from moving forward. All it shows is that you sorry ass bum bitches can't stand the fact that you will never have a career half as successful as mine, and that you'll feel like such worthless pieces of shit, you'll have to continue to show the entire readership that you're still ON MY DICK (still attacking your superiors on this site). So all the haters keep riding on rappers' dicks, or on mine, and keep calling yourselves "real writers." |
falxwon-
You didn't say anything about returning your soul food platter. Supporting non-black businesses to get a "true" urban meal is something you need to do some soul searching about. You also probably wear Hilfiger instead of Fubu and buy your black books from Amazon. (We won't judge you brother, we just speak the truth. Maybe you don't read Black authors.) You are another foot on black owned business owners neck.
But thanks for the link to the white paper.
You are a Lenny Kravitz fan...
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Why can I get a Lo shirt for $45 but a FuBu shirt costs $80????
"me wear Fubu?/ man, listen/ that's like the Marloboro man smokin' a Winston" - Thirstin' Howl the III
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Everyone in here sounds like a whining bitch. Who the hell cares who spends a lot of money on a shirt. Shit, where I came from we had to hand the shit down. So what, you rich, that makes you all the authority on hip hop and all that. Fuck that. My question is how many of you SAPS are really wanna be MCs. i bet you all have 4 track mixers and a mic and kick shit that aint nobody wanting to hear. This Writer said this and he lied, this writer said this and he is a bitch. Fuck you all. None of you have any place in real hip hop anyway. The most any of you have done is make these pathetic studio kids that want a music video think they are great cause they be wearing TOP DESIGNER FASHIONS on some piece of paper and then talk about supporting black people. FUCK THAT! You are just journalists trying to pull in a paycheck and from the sounds of it you all getting fired left and right anyway. Bitches putting guys down cause they aint in Mags anymore and shit. Putting some guy down cause he buys a $40 shirt. Me, I would let a bit of the Brooklyn in me out and pistol whip all you bitches and take your clothes, leave you butt ass NEKED in the mid of Ft. Green. You a bunch of bitches. |
Yo I agree with Money Matt Capone. This site aint nothing but bitches. come around my way with all this tough guy shit and we'll see if you don't get hit in the side of the head with a fuckin brick bitches! yall aint done shit for the game but ruin it for the real niggas. its always the fucking faggots who get the jobs in the office. all of you niggas are homo. fuck you all. |
Fagwon you the biggest bitch on this site. How you gonna say you buy white "urban" brands and not black companies then defend Jerry Heller who NWA siad robbed them? Then you show you a big fucking bitch by saying "My voting on UE100 for Ro mattered to me more than the Presidential Election." Damn, homie, why you all on another nigga like that unless you a homo and like the nigga? fucking bitch. Thats why the games all fucked up. stupid bitch ass niggas like you |
Hey! all these HIP HOP and STREET magazine writers are is the house niggaz who sell their brothas out to get a meal. WHITE people are getting paid from these magazines. I dont see the source buying any projects and letting BLACK or LATINO Family live for free to support their peoples. I dont see VIBE down at the soup kitchens for the homeless black people, Oh i am sorry, they can't buy expencive shit so they just niggers right, I see. The best thing these magazines ever did was have a last page so you can close the shit and through it out, meanwhile one will become a dummer person from the shit they just read. they are all dick suckers, hey he is great, he is the next rakim, he is yelling for his black people or whatever then some house nigger puts his ass up on some page wearing some sweater and pants down around his ass. LETS KEEP NIGGERS LOOKING LIKE THUGS SO WHITE PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS OVER POWER THEM AND WE WILL STAYED PAID BY THE RECORD EXECS WHO WANT TO PIMP THIS NIGGER THEN GET RID OF HIM.
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$40 for a shirt = GOOD
$80 for a shirt = BAD
The point I was trying to make, which SOMEONE seems to have missed is that people need to take a second look at a company suppsedly For Us By Us who charges twice the cost for a shirt than a white designer's company that is supposedly pimping "urban" culture befor they big it up. Who's the pimp here? You feel me?
And oh yeah, next time you wanna make a comment like ...
"LETS KEEP NIGGERS LOOKING LIKE THUGS SO WHITE PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS OVER POWER THEM AND WE WILL STAYED PAID BY THE RECORD EXECS WHO WANT TO PIMP THIS NIGGER THEN GET RID OF HIM"
...don't do it right after a post where you talk about pistol whipping people. That just looks a little hypocritical, kinda like the pot calling the kettle dark skinneded.
I stand by my original exclamation that everybody who posts here needs to eat some Rice Krispies squares and chill the fuck out.
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Well then i guess i am calling the shit black, huh. I don't care. You forget I aint some rich college boy here working for a mag or a web page. What I said and what I stand by is anyone try to attack me like people are being attacked on this page, they deserve to be knocked the F out. Point blank. I never said I am changing the world. My name aint John Lennon, see what I'm saying. The way I handle dirt is with my hands. thats my point. I said magazines do this to BLACK PEOPLE. If someone is in the street well then I guess they have to handle it a different way, huh. I guess that is what seperates journalists from the people living the shit magazines pimp out.
I stand by it all.
And for the shirt well then maybe you shouldn't be feeling what I said cause I guess it was to the person that you were talking to.
What do I know though. I am just the new guy here. right?
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To Sun Man and Chris Pelate,
The two of you obviously can't read.
First I will talk to Chris, since we have this ongoing beef:
1) I did return the food @ Manna's. 3rd paragraph, "I gave back the food." Learn to read the whole post.
2) In urban areas there are more non-resident proprietors of "urban" businesses. So my getting a grub at this kind of place isn't by choice, it is by design. When Momma Pelate opens up her chicken hut, I will be first in line.
3) You can catch me buying books from anywhere bro, I live to read, read to live. But if you want me to namedrop black businesses I frequent, OK. All Eyes on Egypt and Hakim's on 52nd st in West Philly, Nkiru in BK.
4) OK, now here comes the funny shit. I said I had just come outta 125 with my Mom's mudcloth coat (supporting black biz, hmmm? Or was that coat made by the big ol' white man too?) and you have the audacity to try to check me on clothing? Negro please. Again, learn to read. Take your foot outta your mouth, mine isn't on anyone's neck except yours occasionally.
Your welcome for the white papers.
You are still Tyler's magic 8 ball.
Sun Man,
I knew that the UE100 would bring out the retards, but you? Goddamn you are a winner. I foresaw the coming of the idiots on this board (34th post) and this proves it. Your clout is at 2 and you haven't made a solid point yet. My only two things to say to you are
1) Learn sarcasm, it shows that you have wit and intellegence. That's what I was doing in the posts you commented on. And,
2) Before you post as a member of any site, take the time to read what has been going on before your dumb ass arrived. Again, learn to read. Maybe your next few posts will look more focused and intellegent if you can escape your current lexicon (go get the dictionary, because you have no idea what I just said).
OK I am done with the both of you, go back to the short bus now.
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falxwon you're a sarcastic little wimp. You're sitting behind a PC like the rest of these punks and trying to be tough on the Internet. Tell me where you're at and I'll come see you and you can say all that dumb shit TO MY FACE! You little fucking wimp. You punks on this site think you're changing the world with your bullshit. But what are you really doing? Getting fired and acting like lil' bitches on some site run by another shook little bitch. |
Ronin you talk so much shit for someone who don't even write for magazines anymore. |
FUBU,
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Go back to the neighborhood phone partylines. This site is devoted to the progeny of intellegence, you are simply an embarassment to yourself and other newbies to the site like you.
And since I am sitting at my desk, and not standing on the corner anymore, let me know where you are (the free library right? I did tell you to to start reading) so I can send a car to come and get you. I know some great youth mentoring programs that can help shape your future in a positive manner. That's sarcasm, Sun Man. |
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..some of the last few posts here sound exactly like these "thugs" on the readio and on BET nowadays..."yea son, keep it real"..... real wack.. |
I agree with the writer who expressed the sentiment that we as people of Afro descent are quick to patronise any other retailer other than our own. I am a fashion designer who has both past experience and education on which to draw from. Having lived in numerous places in the western hemisphere as well as my Afro- Carribean heritage proffers me a broad inspiration in designing. I say those things only to legitimise my next comments. In the last year or so, one of my relatives celebrated a wedding, at which I designed the bride, groom, ring bearer and flower child outfits. Since it was a relative I gave a huge discount making them pay for only the materials and 25% of mylabour fees. Fast forward to this year, an associate of a friend, aproached me concerning her upcoming wedding. After finally agreeing to the the wedding gown, I arrived at a price 30% to 40% discounted. She balked. She'd heard of bridal shops that offered gowns 2/3 the price I quoted. I told her to go buy it. She replied that the problem with 'us' is that we forget from where we came and become disenfranchising of our less 'fortunate' brethren. BULLSHIT!! I went to school for 7years, interned with a top racist bitch designer for peanuts, endured the ostracization of my conservative family, had countless doors slammed in my face from boutiques and small retailers( for work that was of superior quality but was rejected because of the lack of name recognition), had to work for stippers, drag queens and dope boys. In short, I have (and am) paid (paying) my dues. After the wedding, I heard that she went to bridal shop and paid nearly what I had originally quoted. When I eventually confronted her at a party we attended, she replied that she felt more secure going with a popular (read ' white designed') label. I run a small operation. Often I design with a small profit margin. However, I do quality work and expect to be paid appropriately. If more people would patronise me, I would be able to reduce the costs yet continue to offer high quality merchandise. But we are far too often lookin ' for a free lunch'. There is no free lunch!! My white and asian clients have no problem paying the prices I demand - in fact, I am talking to one of my clients in hope of gaining some seed money to step my operation up a notch however, she is not of colour,White. So go on patronize whitey and continue the self hate by not patronising and believing in your own!! - irie |
Our costs are related proportionally to our sells. Because oftentimes designers of colour do not have backing of the fashion world ( other designers, media and retailers) we are not empowered to buy in large quantites and negotiate the lucrative deals as are our white counterparts. Think of how hard it is to ask from money for a business from a straight White Anglo Saxon Protestant being a foreign born urban dwelling gay fashion design whose own people are reluctant to lend their own support ( money). they chase after Versace, D & G, Tom Ford (of Gucci)- all of whom I admire. yet this comes at the expense of giving their own a chance. We have all bought a white designed piece that was faulty but a) at least we gave it an initial chance and b) did not let us sour our attitude toward all white designers yet that is exactly what happens in the case of designers of colour. |
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Urban Expose..
It seems you need to learn HTML everytime you write an article. Don't you know how to limit the number of characters a person can input using Javascript or the <textarea> parameters?????
You guys are claiming to go big & mainstream and you cannot even react fast enough to people fucking up the format of your site with these long ass and stretched out posts....that's HTML 101!!!!!
You know the saying...give someboy an inch and they will try to take a mile...do us all a favor and control the input....
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No doubt, Ed.
New Article: "Chilly B. takes out Urban Expose"
No one wants to come here and read about (or sift through) multiple junk posts about Hammer and Vanilla Ice. Whovever's trying to bring this site down, there's a good start.
MC Hammer is back? Then why the hell are you posting Davey D's interview from 1997 ten times? What's up for 2001? |
Either delete the messages or move #85-#1 to a new thread. It's taking hella long for this page to load. |
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My man just spammed the board with articles about Vanilla Ice and Hammer. I don't know about you, but I think that's funny...I agree with Ed here, there's got to be a better way - stop the madness! |
of course, once they get deleted our posts will be really confusing... |
This shows how dangerous "Select All" and the "crtl-c/crtl-v" combo can be in the wrong hands...Chilly B, move away from the keyboard and put the mouse down slowly.... |
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Even though you are annoying - I really like this - reminds me when I created eggdrops for IRCs and launch denial of service attacks and expose unix ssi #exec left open on a lot of sites that were claiming to be big and bad....
People like you are the reason why the emperor has no clothes...keep busting those holes open..UE definately didn't have an A+ web site architect and is paying for it...I'm pretty there are plenty of other urban sites with holes also.. |
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Chilly B rules the posts... this is the funniest shit I've ever seen on this site. UE should be embarassed as all hell that this is happening. I mean, the man cut and pasted the Bible for cryin out loud. Ed, what should we expect next? All chin check victims come back and post for revenge.... or Chris Pelate and Bernie Taylor do a collabo on a top 10,000 list of fight club quotes? |
This is great, I didn't get a Bible for Christmas! I'm going to print this out here at work cause I don't think my printer at home has enough ink to get all the way through it. Plus, there's no better use of corporate resources than to print out reams of stuff for my own personal enrichment; that's called a perk at an internet company these days now that the corporate car thing has been reined in...damn I miss that! |
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Congradulations UE...whether you want to admit or not...you been hacked.....
If a person can exploit a loop in your business logic and process for their own personal gain..that's hacking....
If you are this slow to stop something this easy, gawd I will hate it when Russian teenagers get a hold of your shit
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I'm not normally one to advocate bangin on wax, but if I was in the same room with Chilly B right now my phony never been hardcore or even packed a pistol ass would take a swing at him right now, preferably with a spiked bat.
"I'll.. I'll fucking sew yo' asshole shut and keep FEEDIN you, and FEEDIN you, and FEEDIN you." -> Clifford Smith (b/k.a. Mr. Meth)
This website needs an editor, badly. Or at least a moderator. Somebody who can site-ban spammers, spellcheck stories, edit multiple entries in the UE 100, and so on. It's not that the site wouldn't be popular anyway - obviously it is. It's just that the site would be so much BETTER with just a MODICUM of effort. Eliminate the spammers and do some spellchecking Crispus - give us all a Christmas present we'll appreciate to the nth degree. |
maybe it's all these bible posts, but it looks like "the end is near" for UE. was there some Revelation up in there? oh well, it's been a good 6 months. "Lord, I pray that Chilly B and the Ad guy never hack my site." Unbelievable. |
Big fucking deal, Ed, that UE's been hacked. I think the fact that it has been hacked goes to show you how UE has done what it set out to do--prove that you don't need savvy design and bullshit to create a popular site. Seems rather obvious to me that the site was intentionally designed as simplistically as possible TO prove their point. How could you have missed that Ed?
As far as the hackers are concerned, first time in six months? Hmm...UE must be doing something right. Crispus, you should feel a little honored. Wheeeeee...knucklehead one and two chose YOU to hack. Weeeeeee!! Now you KNOW you've been doing your job. HEY NOW!
And oh yeah...to the knucklehead posters..um, whatshisface and the other idiot, I agree....Jesus Christ is Lord. Thank you. Hallelujah.
Now GET THEE BEHIND US!!! Y'all ain't nothing but Satan's workers starting trouble. I can spot cha!! I know who y'all is. SO GET THEE UNDER OUR FEET WHERE YOU BELONG. GET THEE BACK!!! Better make it fast cause I'm bout to start speaking in tongues. I'ma really bring Jesus up in here and y'all gon draw back a broken mouse. So you best haul ass with the quickness.
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Ed is just mad because Tokachu hipped him up to the error on his site as far as his followup, it was orchestrated :-) obviously. The problem here my folks is that nobody here really has anything to talk about and the site owners are only exploiting the stupid stuff we sling around. Everyone sounds cool and all but none of you could express yourself without expletives. Of course this may point to a lack of patience and BRAIN POWER (there, I said it) but only the writers know.
In the meantime, I will leave you fellas to argue and argue, see ya.
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Ed, I think that you have a complex of getting your butt beat by EverythingBlack.com, BlackWebPortal.com, and SoulSearch.com. You need Fooky.com because you apparently lack the skills to compete against the 3. In fact I saw the folks of the BlackWebPortal.com in BlackEnterprise (pg. 140) and I saw EverythingBlack & BlackWebPortal on page 165 of the October issue. Where were you? Sucking your thumb saying there is no black market. The truth be known, black enterprise made it by focusing on the black business market. They made it for 30 years. You on the other hand are frustrated because you didn't have the know how and the courage to get your dreams through.
Buddy, you got puberty wet dreams on the brain. One day you'll grow up. |
can we get off the topic of who's crispus? for a bit ... how about we scratch the gloss on the "urban" identity for a bit ..
some starters (admittedly, not all that cohesive) :
why has "urban" become a badge of honor, some sort of freaky fashion label .. when it's the most-in-your-fucking-face reminder of an imposed condition ?
what's so "urban" about urban media when most of it is configured to peddle content (be it 'authentic' or otherwise) to the great suburban white middle between nyc & la ?
the product/content might be urban (a debatable prop in itself) but what about the pc-owning, net-surfing, curious-about-'black'-culture-because-my-isolated-pseudo-eugenic-whitebreeding-has-left-me-with-a-mental-gap/handicap-audience ?? urban, in any sense of that word? i think NOT !
why is it that the most immediate association when someone drops "urban" is entertainment ?? well, i guess spike lee answered that one, or atleast articulated what a lot of us know/suspect to be the answer??
why not "urban" EDU-TAINMENT??
all this blinging & puff-er-y .. reinforcing the sad disconnect between grooves for the hip and grooves for the mind ... and this, for a form that includes in its lineage folks who in 3 minutes flat could make your mind spin with as much learning / un-learning as it takes a henry louis gates, jr. 30 plodding minutes ... can you say, fucking sad, again ?!
the blight in "urban" entertainment is far from unique, far from a 'localized' urban problem/phenomenon ... it's the ubiquitous, yet ever hidden outgrowth of a capitalist, pervertedly 'market-driven' approach to cultural expression .. put simply, "urban" entertainment today is the result of america.inc waking up to the mkt.potential of 'hip-hop' ... the one hitch - how to sell a culture rooted in ghettoized oppression to fascinated disposable-income toting suburbanites whose identification w/ ghetto conditions is sub-zero - has been resolved by skimming the cream off the milk that spawned it .. divorce the attitude from the conditions that created it, the rest is slick packaging and wide distribution ... in case you're wondering where's the trend, you probably haven't seen the apple ads featuring gandhi and che guevara's mug selling designer berets and little else !!
peace & revolution ... and no, they're not incompatible !!
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There is no 'so what' if your site has been exploited by someone by hacking, not only is it illegal but I'm pretty sure if there was a revenue model or a meeting with investors and this crap happens it would be anything but a good impression. And you also seem to forget if that guy had an automatic HTTP Post cgi script instead of the elementary cut and pase that he could have literaly brought this site down to it's knees.
My complaint is that UE has poor interface design and is being affected by it every time they right an article. Yet they claim to go mainstream with these types of flaws. I pointed them out and I offer a simple resolution to the problem: limit the text input field. What did you offer beside some cheerleading 'UE is popular'?
Bernie,
Brother, I won't be expletive with you this time. Last time I checked the webmaster count - Ed:3 , Bernie: 0. Last message you were holding my scrotum talking about how cool the site was, now you must be on some anti-Ed bandwagon. It probably gets you hard for me to even acknowledge your simple simon behind. I won't anymore after this post......
I don't have any beef with tochaku like you wish in order to bring your divide-and-conquer scenario into play. In fact I had more lively, intelligent discussions and debates with him than you can ever bring to the table.
You are the obviously one with a complex message. You stating I'm lacking in skill competing against the three other sites. Who says there is competition except your 'crab in a barrel' mentality? Second question: what competition? We all had our angle and niche and online users do not exclusively use one site over another (which is what you want to argue). That's goes with almost all content-based sites. Get a clue....that fact you mention Internet competition proves you don't even have a clue how the Internet works...
For your information I was contacted by the writer for that Black Enterprise piece and I was explaining my site was going away, stupid. And for your information I have been published in Black Enterprise before and we even had a link from their site. Do a little more research before making baseless claims. It doesn't make a difference to me if I get a pub in a magazine or not, I don't need to be validated in that way....
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"hi my name is Bernie. I don't have a site yet but I plan to create a black search engine that will blow everyone else away. I have 300K, a corporate day job and some mad Cold Fusion and Oracle skills. Somebody please hold my nuts and give some clout, please...."
Bernie, I'll give you 10 of mines..happy holidays...... |
Ed, unlike yourself, I've never presented myself to be a know-it-all who's got a solution to every internet problem. In fact, being an expert in the internet is not and has never been a prerequisite for posting to this site. But thank you so much for breaking it down to me why the hack job is such a big deal. Let me see if I understood your post correctly...it hurts your ability to freely promote your site in this space?
<<And you also seem to forget if that guy had an automatic HTTP Post cgi script instead of the elementary cut and pase that he could have literaly brought this site down to it's knees.>>
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promote my site in this space?
no offense to anyone else on this board, but if you think I or anybody else need to promote myself on a webzine board that only 20-25 people post on collectively..I consider that an insult to my intelligence....
If I need to promote my site I'll arrange a linking relationship or sponsor an e-mail list to bring in thousand of users. I want my peers to look at my site and feedback, I'll post it here..your're right about not knowing much in this space...
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UE,
I apologize and will also apologize for the knuckleheads who want to take the commentary/discussion off on a tangent.
I will not post anymore comments or responses that is not related to your article. Keep up the good work and don't worry I still enjoy reading the articles from my Palm Pilot commuting...... |
My problem with Corey?
I'll tell you:
1) lack of any sense of corporate organizational structure.
2) lack of any sense of standardization of production process.
3) propensity to run off half-cocked with all the zeal he could muster only to bob and weave when the real job of cleaning up the mess comes around.
4) lack of straightforwardness and inability to communicate meaningfully except to proclaim his own "expertise" and his understanding of "the right way" to do something.
Do I sound like a bitter ex-employee? I'm not. There are people from UBO that I have a great deal of respect for. Corey just isn't one of them.
For myself, I'm rolling on the freelance tip and have been since November. I'm not stressing UBO's fiery descent to the earth. If anything, I sort of walked about the office with a big grin in the dying days there...I felt like the failure of UBO was a testament to real justice in the world. People who fuck up over and over again dont really deserve to win the big game.
I dont know what his experience at Sonicnet was as I wasn't there but I have been in this industry since 1996 and have the awards to illustrate my own competence. Corey only ever evidenced disorganization, disorientation and lack of managerial savvy as far as I can tell and the last website that I worked on (before UBO) in any dedicated capacity was nominated for a webby last year...we didn't win it, but we were nominated.
Say what you like, but I am not the only person from UBO who has that sort of feeling for Corey. The truth is that he had little to no respect from anyone in his staff. Again, I was lucky that I didn't report to him.
Given the position he occupied, Corey should have been the one with solutions to UBO's problems. He should have been the one to reel in Kidron's scattered objectives and amorphous business strategies and he didn't. Instead, Corey played the yes-man to the letter and quietly shuffled his feet while drawing his paycheck. Corey didn't play the game to win, and that is 50% of my problem with him. The other 50% is the arrogance and self-assuredness that he evidenced whenever anyone directly questioned his judgement and directives.
Corey was the SVP of product development and given the failure of UBO's products (except for perhaps Othervision and Shine365 which he didn't have very much direct involvement in due, in part, to the refusal of the execs of those properties to let Corey interfere with their development), I would say that Corey's job performance at UBO speaks for itself.
Bitter? Hardly. I just can't abide an incompetent and the original intention of my post was to hail UE's charachterization of him. Whether or not he was respected at Sonicnet, the truth is that at UBO, Corey's name was synonomous with mis-management, lack of coherent organization, lack of perspective and ultimately, lack of talent or expertise.
His performance speaks for itself.
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CABAL,
Well put response. It's clear you're not just about the hate.
And to the person that suggested I'm Corey, you're wrong, but whatever floats your boat. I'm also not here to be anyone's apologist.
I had no interaction with Corey while he was at UBO, so I will refrain from comments about that. But it sounds like you were expecting him to be able to fix deep organizational issues ("Kidron's scattered objectives and amorphous business strategies") that were probably unfixable. No product head can correct a flawed biz plan.
Kidron and his cohorts created a culture of arrogance, and yeah, they probably should have been called on it by anyone in direct contact with him -- including yourself.
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Indeed, I had no direct contact with Kidron until it was too late.
A group of us got togetehr to propose a reorganization of UBO to the end of presenting the investors with a scaled down UBO that might have still saved a hundred jobs or so...As it happened, it was all for naught.
This is one reason why I dont have any regrets. I worked at UBO and I did everything I could to make that situation work (which is more than I can say for some...including Corey). I did not go silently into that dark night, I raged, raged against the dying of the light though in the end it was all sound and fury signifying nothing.
HA!
Enough of the literary references.
Corey delights not me, no nor Kidron either...to insert one more literary reference into the mix before I exheunt stage left... |
I was kinda disappointed the Bible was deleted, That doesn't seem like good Karma. Could someone please put me in touch with the Jesus Freak...it is the end of the year and all. Maybe the Millenium is more than just a BSB album? Geto Heaven may be a real fucking place.
Hope to see you there falxwon.
(yeah, right!)
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Guess who's back? Vanilla Van Chilly wants to give us a little holiday cheer. I guess it tis the season, because every web based message board I visit has been getting spammed like it's going out of style. I suspect we have too many bored teenagers home on holiday vacation - idle hands are the devil's playthings, even if they post in Biblical verse.
I'd love to be there when Chilly B's mom walks in the room, smacks him upside the head, and tells him to go downstairs and "take out the garbage" like James Todd Smith. |
so basically everyone's going to post their OWN articles until we reach #1. |
CABAL, why you hatin on Corey when everyone knows RZ was nothin but a fuckup at ubo. Now i hear he's back on welfare and theft. At least Corey showed up on time for meetings. |
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Goo Goo,
Okay, no doubt Arzie Hardin was the last candidate I would have ever chosen to run my kitty litter box, invariably UBO's demise was the fault of Adam Kidron. Even though Arzie is a crazed, deranged disorganized egomaniac, much of his behavior was intensified by the tying of his hands by Kidron. At first, Hardin's model was the very format of UBO, and then more and more properties took away his crust of cheese.
Arzie was crazy and off the hook, but Kidron...was evil. There is a difference. Also, crazy as Arzie was, his idea was good (even if he wasn't sure what the hell his focus was) while Kidron had no ideas and no nothing. He's sort of like George W. Bush, and the way he'll probably handle government.
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RZ harding is so fulla shit, his teeth is brown. Only buzz he got a 30" DILDO up his ass!!! |
...And it goes a little something like this...
The following is an interpolation from the "10 Crack Commandments" by the Notorious B.I.G. keep that beat in your head as you read:
10 DOTCOM COMMANDMENTS
I been in this game for years
It made me a animal
There's rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual
A step by step booklet, for you to get
Your game on track, not your dot com pushed back
Rule number one, always play this game for fun
Watching the Matrix while programmin cold fusion dont make you The One
Cashing a big check don’t mean that you catchin wreck
Listen to what the Wu said and just protect ya neck
Number 2, never let 'em know your next move
Don't you know bad boys move in silence with silence
Take it from your highness, uh huh
I performed mad Jedi mindtricks on these "urban" cats, for they ram and chips
Number 3, never trust nobody
Your CEO set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodied and masked up, for that fast buck
he be layin in the conference room to light that ass up
Friends and co-workers have things they afraid face to face to say,
Uploaded next day on Urban Expose
Number four, know you heard this before
Dont believe the hype, of your own MS Word type
Number five, always know the terms of the deal
A signed piece of paper aint worth $20 mil, trying to keep it real
Nino Brown ran the Carter so Phuck that ex-Navy seal
Urban is defined as pertaining to the characteristic of the city
Trying to control it and not know it ,makes it a pity
Level playing field , come with what whatever you got
You cant define us with them 3 W's or that muthaphucking dot
Number six, never ever fall for tricks
I know plenty websites with the same free javascripts,
SVP’s/Web Producers all cocky and bold, never taught but always told
need to back their shit up with the basic knowledge of HTML code
Seven, this rule is so underated
Keep your fly women and business completely separated
Money and sex don't fit , like two male serial cables, and no interconnect bitch
Find yourself in serious shit
Number eight, never keep no ones New Jack dream alive for except for you
Them british cats that wish they were blak can hold nightmares true
Its a "Thin Line Between Love and Hate" to wait
4 days to announce the companys bankruptcy fate
Number nine should've been number one to me
If you ain't with due diligence, stay the fuck from VC's
If niggas think you slippin, they ain't tryna listen
youll be settin up for hiring
They Waitin to start firing
Number ten, a term called “set new trends”
Strictly for live sites, not for wacksites
If you ain't got the next shit vision, say hell no
Cause investors gonna' want they money , rain, sleet, hail, snow
Follow these rules, you'll have mad bread to break up
If not,no IPO on the wake-up
Empty box office, watch your frames shake up
Brown Eyed Intelligence with code and rap
Back my mindspray up on Operation: FILETAP
Was down with UBO from the start until it fell,
But im ok cause I can still think and link my thoughts up in html
Gotta go, gotta go, more files to hack up
Peace
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Really read it this time:
The following is an interpolation from the "10 Crack Commandments" by the Notorious B.I.G. keep that beat in your head as you read:
10 DOTCOM COMMANDMENTS
I been in this game for years
It made me a animal
There's rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual
A step by step booklet, for you to get
Your game on track, not your dot com pushed back
Rule number one, always play this game for fun
Watching the Matrix while programmin cold fusion dont make you The One
Cashing a big check don’t mean that you catchin wreck
Listen to what the Wu said and just protect ya neck
Number 2, never let 'em know your next move
Don't you know bad boys move in silence with silence
Take it from your highness, uh huh
I performed mad Jedi mindtricks on these "urban" cats, for they ram and chips
Number 3, never trust nobody
Your CEO set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodied and masked up, for that fast buck
he be layin in the conference room to light that ass up
Friends and co-workers have things they afraid face to face to say,
Uploaded next day on Urban Expose
Number four, know you heard this before
Dont believe the hype, of your own MS Word type
Number five, always know the terms of the deal
A signed piece of paper aint worth $20 mil, trying to keep it real
Nino Brown ran the Carter so Phuck that ex-Navy seal
Urban is defined as pertaining to the characteristic of the city
Trying to control it and not know it ,makes it a pity
Level playing field , come with what whatever you got
You cant define us with them 3 W's or that muthaphucking dot
Number six, never ever fall for tricks
I know plenty websites with the same free javascripts,
SVP’s/Web Producers all cocky and bold, never taught but always told
need to back their shit up with the basic knowledge of HTML code
Seven, this rule is so underated
Keep your fly women and business completely separated
Money and sex don't fit , like two male serial cables, and no interconnect bitch
Find yourself in serious shit
Number eight, never keep no ones New Jack dream alive for except for you
Them british cats that wish they were blak can hold nightmares true
Its a "Thin Line Between Love and Hate" to wait
4 days to announce the companys bankruptcy fate
Number nine should've been number one to me
If you ain't with due diligence, stay the fuck from VC's
If niggas think you slippin, they ain't tryna listen
youll be settin up for hiring
They Waitin to start firing
Number ten, a term called “set new trends”
Strictly for live sites, not for wacksites
If you ain't got the next shit vision, say hell no
Cause investors gonna' want they money , rain, sleet, hail, snow
Follow these rules, you'll have mad bread to break up
If not,no IPO on the wake-up
Empty box office, watch your frames shake up
Brown Eyed Intelligence with code and rap
Back my mindspray up on Operation: FILETAP
Was down with UBO from the start until it fell,
But im ok cause I can still think and link my thoughts up in html
Gotta go, gotta go, more files to hack up
Peace
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, Ten
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new trend coming up. "rappers that write code and can ryhme in java script". thats heat.
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Hi I'm the average Urban Expose reader. I'm a no talent parasite who feels really bad about seeing others with talent succeed in their fields. I see these people make money and have success and look at myself and think What kind of a low life am I? thinking I'm someone special or contributing to anything? I see these people with real talent getting things done and feel as long as they're around I'll know the truth about myself. So I have to attack them on this board. This way I can discredit them, make them leave and I can once again try to fool people into thinking I'm someone with as much talent as the people I've attacked. This basically describes me, and most of the people on this site, and the people who run it. Sad isn't it? |
The people who come here to post useful information-- thank you for the insights and education. Keep doing your thing and don't let the self hating jobless losers stop you. |
Hello, "Average UE reader" I'm Hookted it Up, and I post here on occasion. I disagree with your view of the average UE reader, but I think I met quite a few people like you.
You, you know those who will blindly follow anything and anyone that's described by a whole bunch of other followers as "Hot" "Blazin" " The Jon Blaze" or other various sayings of the minute that make you seem "cool". Your still disapointed and BITTER that you lost your job doing nothing and saying something stupid at VIBE, UBO, VANGUARDE or other " fill in the blank "urban companies" where you sat on your ass, spread gossip about your CEO and use company resources to set up your next apperance at a party you got invited to on a hookup , and really had no need or real business being there.
You sit here, on UE complaining that people, that you've never met or seen or have no real reason to believe actually exist for your down fall and squashed your opportunity to beg from or kiss the asses of Russell, Keith, Omar, Puffy, Daivd, Brett, Chaz, or any of the other people whom head the companies you'd sell your left leg to be down with.......Whatever. |
Hookted it up, you must have me confused with other bums like yourself who do nothing but post garbage and unsound business plans on this highly unoriginal garbage can of a message board. I have a well paying job at a very prestigious media company where I don't have to appeal to gutter fabulous ghetto trash or rely on the online fad to make my company successful. You can try to sling mud all you want. The truth hurts. You are a bum with no talent and no job worth mentioning in polite company. You should learn from companies like mine. We can show you how to build a real business and maintain it without big parties or egos. |
By the way you unemployed little twit: I work for BET and we are now part of Viacom the biggest media congolomerate on earth. We will soon put all aspiring BETs out of business (including trashcans 360hiphop and Vanguarde purchased before we were sold to our new and more professional parent company). All other sites be warned. We will control the urban web. |
That simple fact that you mentioned BET is so ridiculous that it's hard to laugh at your simple ass but I am because you're simply bananas.
I'm so glad that you post here on the premise that BET will one day take over the entire space with such pride, because even if they do, you won't see one red cent. Everyone knows the only shareholders in BET were, Johnson, Malone and Lee. I guess 50 cent franks from Gray's and quarter waters is enough to sustain your ass into playing yourself on a board, in site in which you claim to have issue with.
The only one who won't be able to mention their "You want fries with that?" job is you...When Viacom turns BET into a logo meaning "This is what we want to appeal to blacks" and fires all of you idiots who actually believe
A. They would keep redundancies when they already have perfectly good staff to do the jobs you fuck up on everyday.
B. They would keep operations going with non-union workers in the largest union city in the world. (Just waiting for them to bust out the big rat.)
Yes, yes, simpleton, the Viacom revolutions is coming to wax all of you "down for the company" following asses at BET, and if I were you, I'd stop talking shit about Vanguarde. If your boss Bobby can pawn his share off to someone else....They will be the only place your pathetic ass can probably get hired. |
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average UE reader,
I agree with some of your comments 200%. I'll be the first to hear what you got to say. I'm tired of people who constantly pop shit from the sidelines about someone else business with nothing to show for themselves...
But please, don't make the biggest mistake of involving yourself into someone else dreams. I've seen many people get into "new economy" positions and falls in love with the venture capital the firm got, the press and attention their firm is getting, their techie gadgets but yet the employee has a shitty salary a stock option paper that don't mean shit until two-three years and no social life.
Before you attack me, I consulted in both Fortune 100 brand name firms and currently working at one of the best technology/communication firms in the country - 100% Internet/Web related. And I also experience well-known startups where it was obvious the CEO & board of directors mission was to cash out the IPO and leave us employees with only dreams&visions of being rich.
Nothing is stopping three guys/gals from the University of Iowa to get together with some foreign exchange students from India and create a site that will revolutionize the Internet and how Blacks empower themselves forever. It will happen eventually and until that happen, I know this: BET.com is not that killer application and I seriously doubt it will ever be with the Viacom merger.
I wanted to reach out to you because I seen this shit happen too many times. Keep this in mind: UPS truck drivers got benefits, salaries and options better than 90% of the dotcom workers out there. |
ANY THOUGHTS ON BLACK EUROPE'S leading "urban" portal--
http://www.darkerthanblue.com ?? |
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Ed, my man. Where's iBlaq at? I've been checking for it! I already registered at, Fooky. Let me know.... |
Happy 2001 y'all. Here's hoping your portfolio looks better this year than mine did last year - I lost half or more of the money in my mutual funds on the NASDAQ nosedive. On the other hand, at least I invested it myself instead of waiting for a handout from a fly-by-night IPO or here today/gone tomorrow internet business. The motto in 2001 is not "If you build it, they will come" - it's more like "If you build it, have a business plan first."
Good luck to all the struggling entrepeneurs. No love to those who talk out their ass and work for fortune 500 companies but don't know shit about how to use the net. |
Jonn,
I knew there was a reason I loved ya brutha....keep it coming...OP Filetap is hot...
For the rest....hurry up with the damn list already. There are too many people I need some juice on.
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average UE reader how long will you have u job at BET before we move our crew in there? |
hey average dude, what thuglite wrote is right. We few blacks at mtv need better jobs and taking over Bet sounds just fine for me. For years I been the only black guy up at mtv and I am tired of my white co workers treating me like doggie poo and my white boss making me make black people look bad, stupid or illiterate. So now I can go to bet and make black people look stupid over there. Just like i did over here. so dont think youll have a job for too long. Mtv is gonna take over bet and get all of you out. |
Working for Viacom? Going back to the 80's those folks have been the cheapest guys in town. Their idea of a Chistmas bonus is a left over promo t-shirt. With all that glam you don't get much paycheck - unless you are doing something non-creative like helpdesk, in which case the t-shirt is cool...
It's also a company that isn't doing that much with the internet. They withdrew the IPO for MTVi, and don't seem to be doing much. At least Time Warner got purchased by AOL, which means Viacom will have to look around.
But anyone thinking that the top Urban content website gets a money prize just doesn't get it! |
Let's see that Crispus show himself. I realy want to know who he (or she) is. Most likely it's somebody I never heard of. So show yourself or not, just keep the site up and running as is. Ya heard!
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HIP PRESIT that was the back in the daze now our XMAS parties are the BOMB!!!!!! dont hate because u cant be in the company |
Whoa! I made number 76.
"The Ogre of Online Hip-Hop" is a title that I hope I can live up to. Just think, if I never got to UBO I would have never made the cut. Thanks to all the people who came to UBO everyday to collect a check. Props to Tyrone for not being a CTO and never helping my property with anything outside of grief and stress. If you had helped me out, my site would probably be non-existant. FYI - You were a real fucking jerk. Can't forget Crispus, my brother from another mother! When we gonna build that site?
Download the ibeblunt wallpaper to your computer:
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why is it always the dudes that look like mobutu that try to run shit with a iron fist? that mafucka looks like an african dictator.
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whoa!
someone admitted to working for BET.
Did anyone see Johnson's comment about BET promoting positive images........
Is he looking at the same BET I'm looking at? |
eveerything Joke Schecter touches, flops. But dont sleep on the most important jew in rap publishing. Jon schecter is getting that Eminem money I hear. Jews in bed. |
<<70. Ray J
Look Brandy. You can't make us like him.>>
YEAH!! And you can't make us like you either Brandy!
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Thug: Cool Xmas parties are sooo 90's. I'd trade the cool Xmas party for good paychecks, benefits and a 401k plan. : ) |
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Gotta admit that urbanmagic.com had the most expensive splash page/gif image out there.... |
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I saw that same pic of tyrone thomas in a magazine called fuse (it was a supplement to some mag I get). |
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Steve, you like, would want to slip a blank index.html into this dir: http://www.sohh.com/images/ keeps nosey muhfukaz like me from snooping thur thy image dirs and what not. its actually good a good idea to put that file in any dir automatically to avoid nosey muhfukaz like me from seeing work or keeping your personal jerk off materials out of view that you might not be ready for the world to see yet.
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he doesn't have to put an index file in there. you can deny access to directories that don't have an index file in the apache config file. i'm pretty sure you can do the same on a NT/2000 server as well. |
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HIP PREIST- FYI
Benefits - I got em
401K - I got em
Damn Good Paycheck - I got em
T&E - I got em
Travel - I got em
Vacation - I got em
Sick Days - I got em
Perks - I got em
where do u work? |
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Yeah i know i was just being a dick. Besides there ain't nothing in that domain worth looking at. they keep all the current files at onlinehiphopawards.com anyway. I've always wondered why they host sohh.com from onlinehiphopawards.com. I guess it must be some left over ubo garbage still in their system?
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where's lawrence jacobsen?, miranda?, shaan?
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<< Dick Wigglesworth II wrote:
Yeah i know i was just being a dick. Besides there ain't nothing in that domain worth looking at. they keep all the current files at onlinehiphopawards.com anyway. I've always wondered why they host sohh.com from onlinehiphopawards.com. I guess it must be some left over ubo garbage still in their system?
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That whole onlinehiphopawards.com/sohh crap was more of a marketing/venture capital trick than anything else. They were promoting the awards in magazines and stuff pretty heavily last year. As a result, it was registering on the Media Matrix and PC Data Online radar. So to increase that visibility they put the sohh stuff in a subdirectory of the onlinehiphopawards.com domain, so that when users came to the sohh site it would count towards onlinehiphopawards.com traffic. I guess that way they could go back to the VCs and say look how many unique visitors and page impressions we're getting.
It's pretty lame though. They should have SOHH shit on sohh.com and leave it at that. They could even subscribe to Media Matrix and just tell them that sohh.com and onlinehiphopwards.com are a part of the "SOHH Network". Then MM would aggregate the traffic from their properties and in the reports it would say the "SOHH Network" received X number of unique visitors and X number of page views this week, month, etc. |
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UE, all typos aside, I still luv ya. Lookin mad forward to you guys (and girls!) finishing a funny list that still manages to inform those of us not often in the 'urban' internet space. Keep it coming. |
Check It,
Looking for the best and the brightest Webmasters out there. We're about to set off the (real) new millenium Black Adult Website like no other. Yeah I know UE, finally an urban website that's actually gonna make money. |
Hit me at Mrdilligaf654@Yahoo.com |
>>PUB: special residency program for cyber artists
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Bronx Council on the Arts' Longwood Cyber Residency and Exhibition
Program
You do NOT need to be a Bronx resident to apply.
Longwood Cyber Program provides artists access to our Cyber Studio
which is
equipped with hardware/software and access to consultants so they may
experiment with new technologies as creative tools. Internet projects
will
be hosted on our website <A HREF="http://www.longwoodcyber.org"> </A>
indefinitely. The residency
is nine months in duration and also includes a $3,000 honorarium.
BRONX COUNCIL ON THE ARTS'
LONGWOOD CYBER RESIDENCY AND EXHIBITION PROGRAM
ARTIST SCHOLARSIP APPLICATION
For 2002-2003
BACKGROUND
Since 1981, The Bronx Council on the Arts' Longwood Arts Project has
provided emerging artists exhibition opportunities and low-cost studio
space. The Longwood Arts Project is located in the Southeast Bronx,
adjacent to the Longwood Historic District and is situated in a former
public school building which was converted for cultural and community
use.
The Cyber Studio is equipped with computers, software and access to the
Internet and technology consultants. The studio is accessible six days
a
week, Mon. - Fri. 9 am - 10 pm, Sat 12 pm - 4 pm.
ARTIST CYBER RESIDENCY SCHOLARSHIPS
BCA has a Cyber Studio, which is equipped for use by 4 artists at no
cost
for a 9-month period beginning in September 2002. At the conclusion of
this period, the 4 artists will have the opportunity to exhibit their
completed Internet projects in our Cyber Gallery
<A HREF="http://www.longwoodcyber.org"> </A>. The Cyber Studio is
available to our artists six days a week and there is a ten-hour weekly
attendance requirement.
REQUIREMENTS
The Cyber Residency Scholarship is available to visual artists working
in
all mediums. High School and full-time college undergraduate and
graduate
students are not eligible for this scholarship.
LONGWOOD CYBER RESIDENT ARTISTS
1999-2000 Terry Boddie, Irina Danilova, Xiomara De Oliver, Khiang Han
Hei
2000-2001 Tomie Arai, George Crespo, Marcos Dimas, Jaime Permuth
2001-2002 Heng-Gil Han, Karina Skvirsky, Jenna Spevack, Tats Cru,
Sandra
Annette Toro
APPLICATION PROCEDURES
Complete the application (on reverse side) and return to Longwood along
with ten to twenty slides of your work, current resume, one paragraph
artist statement, slide narrative and one-paragraph Internet project
proposal. A self-addressed envelope with sufficient postage to return
the
slides must accompany the application. Incomplete applications will
not be
processed. Artists are selected by a peer panel process. The
application
must be postmarked, not metered, by March 1st, 2001. There is only one
solicitation annually.
Longwood Cyber Residency and Exhibition Program is made possible by
circuits@nys, an initiative of the New York State Council on the Arts
in
partnership with the New York Foundation for the Arts, National
Endowment
for the Arts, Jerome Foundation, Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual
Arts, Bronx Information Network, Microsoft and Adobe. Additional
funding
for the Longwood Arts Project is provided by the Visual Arts Program of
the
New York State Council on the Arts, the N.Y.C. Department of Cultural
Affairs, The Chase Manhattan Foundation, Krasdale Foods, Fernando
Ferrer
and the Bronx County Delegation of the City Council of New York and BCA
Members. Longwood is a member of the National Association of Artists
Organizations.
LONGWOOD CYBER RESIDENCY SCHOLARSHIP ARTIST APPLICATION
Submit the completed application along with ten to twenty slides, slide
narrative, a one paragraph artist's statement, a one-paragraph Internet
project proposal, a current resume, and a self-addressed envelope with
sufficient postage to return the slides. Please place the slides in a
slide sheet; label the slides with your name, media, size, date and
indicate "top". Your first 4 slides will be projected for our first
screening. The rest will be projected for the following rounds.
Mail to:
Longwood Cyber Residency Program/Bronx Council on the Arts
965 Longwood Avenue, suite 213 Bronx, New York 10459 Telephone:
(718)
842-5659
Fax: (718) 842-3933
Email: longwood@artswire.org
Deadline:
Submit completed application with required documentation to Longwood no
later than 6:00 pm, March 1st, 2001
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PLEASE PRINT OR TYPE ________________________
DATE
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NAME (LAST) (FIRST)
DAY TELEPHONE
ADDRESS (CITY) (STATE) (ZIP+4)
Area of Specialization:__ Drawing __ Painting __ Printmaking __
Sculpture__Photography
Other
How did you hear about this program?
________________________________________
Briefly describe the work you may be
undertaking:_______________________________
Have you had any experience with Internet technology before? ___Yes
___No
How many slides are enclosed? ___
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Longwood Arts Project
965 Longwood Avenue
Bronx, NY 10459
Tel: 718-842-5659
Fax: 718-842-3933
E-mail:longwood@artswire.org
http://www.bronxarts.org
Thank you,
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Executive Vice President,
Blacklines Magazine,
2011 Newkirk Avenue, suite 7D
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