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Impact 24/7 Gets Better! Can't Say the Same for Soul Purpose Newsletter.
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Soul Purpose newsletter has steadily gotten worse, if such a thing was possible, proving that James Andrews can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Perhaps the problem is that as they make the push to become daily; they are realizing that Mr. Andrews has nothing to say. The level of content seems to be aimed more at transit workers than "tastemakers" (whatever THAT is…). Needless to say, David Mohammed's phone is not ringing off the hook.
Soul Purpose makes a bold claim of being an informative newsletter for urban industry professionals. To this end, James Andrews provides what he calls "Thought provoking articles" with such titles as "POLITIKIN". Evidently, James Andrews feels that the way to deliver news to Urban Industry Executives is thru Dennis Page style pigeon English. SP has re-launched their website which includes a perpetually empty chat room, banal polls and empty bulletin boards that feature messages like "where r the posts on these messageboards?" We also noticed that the site directly copies the Urban Exposé message boards. Flattery will get your everywhere. The site also features a store that allows you to buy N'Sync and Brittany Spears CD's as featured items. The Business of Urban Culture indeed.
James Andrews: "The sad thing about all of this is that these are the Napster addicted, sideline busters who I see wasting VC dollars at 360hiphop, Hookt.com, Volume"
Soul Purpose can make the claim of being helpful, but mostly for James Andrews. Thinly disguised sections called "Andy's Eatery of the Week" and "Andy's Toy Box" allows James Andrews eat and drink up stuff for free and expense electronic toys to UBO. There doesn't seem to be much need to review restaurants considering that UBO has spent thousands on huge database of reviews of restaurants for Sheryl Huggins' yet to materialize The Gauge website. He also reviews gadgets like MP3 Watches that, while cute aren't influencing anyone to do anything. There isn't even a link to buy it. Generally we recommend that grown men refrain from saying "Toy Box" in public, least of all in business newsletters. The International business section in the newsletter has been the same for three weeks straight. He also has a Rumor Mill section that amounts to him mentioning someone's name with no rumor.
RUMOR MILL: Mai Huggins (Columbia Records)
Ok James. No Talk. No Action.
James Andrews: "Disappointed at the low-level, no stock option having, graduate of source school of hip-hop, player hatin, can't get into events, record company reject kids who started the site."
James Andrews ends off each newsletter with a begging segment that's longer than most articles. They beg for everything under the sun, ads, subscribers, information, a shoe, a lamp, a 3-cent stamp. They promise to never reveal a source, however that doesn't seem to get them any hot tips. Soul Purpose couldn't even get an ad from a Shelly Garrett production, although with David Watkins on board that might change.
To Impact 24/7's credit, its newsletters have become an industry must-read. We have found the new format extremely informative. They haven't been afraid to license content where they are weak from sources like Screaming Media (SCRM) and are just managing to produce a daily newsletter since the Plugin conference. Their coverage of our yearly stomping ground Urban World was great. The funny thing is Bo Kemp has decided it's was cool to cull e-mail addresses from sites for the purpose of adding them to their mailing list for Impact 24/7. They have to pad those subscriber numbers anyway they can. We take that as a compliment.
James Andrews: "We have decided to bring in expert detectives to not only find out who started the site but who's posting anonymously.andy will find you!!! the witchunt has begun!!"
Still waiting for those detectives James. Don't be so nervous, sending two newsletters in one day doesn't make it any better….
Stay gold baby, we'll stay platinum.
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Hey everybody who's seen my posts on this site knows I am not SP's biggest fan, but still I have to post, what the hell? Can SP's newsletter even, use the word "news" in it? It's total crap. Urban Expose' , this time you guys were dead on, no exceptions.
As for Impact's newletter, I have to agree that it has been better as of late. (Vanguarde did you get my email from here?) Big improvement. Perhaps they can get even better if they stop using the "Hype Williams Video Chick casting model" As the basis for all their Human Resources effort and hire people who have the experience and skills to bring Impact247.com and it's newletter to the next level instead of, "Yo!, she look good or what?" |
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Soul Purpose use to be good when it was for industry insiders... now i know high schoolers that get it now.. |
SP as a newsletter is like a local public access cable show as |
heh. whoops.
I meant to say that using a newsletter like SP as a news SOURCE is like standing in the middle of the street of a major city with a MAP.
If you're an "in the know person" don't you have an IM list with people you can refer to and get any info you need? And you really KNOW them? Otherwise what is it you DO, anyway... |
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* The site also features a store that allows you to buy N'Sync and Brittany Spears CD's as featured items. The Business of Urban Culture indeed.....
When did N'Sync and Britney Spears become part of the URBAN Culture? I dont own a cd by either of them nor the Backstreet Boys...
* Soul Purpose couldn't even get an ad from a Shelly Garrett production, although with David Watkins on board that might change.
Icon couldnt even keep an account longer than 6 months ... so how can David bring ads in? Lisa Cambride isnt at Volume anymore so that idea is shot down the drain...and Phat Farm isnt advertising in the Soul Purpose... maybe they can do snipes like UBO''s current ad campaign....
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UE is a fascinating site - like the Hollywood Reporter for the East Coast. So please open up more forums on film, music and politics.
Enough with ctitiqiung web sites sites that have no hits. Let's move on to bigger things e.g.
politics: who's the clown who pushes memos across Jesse Jackson's desk?
television: who are the clowns at Fox who can't program a decent night and have to turn to black sitcoms every season, only to cancel them to make room for more crummy shows? explain the demise of 'livin single', 'in living color' , 'martin', 'roc' and countless others?
newspapers: what was the purpose of the NY Times race issue? what did it accomplish? |
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what is http://www.impact247.com/?
IT'S EMPTY! |
"When did N'Sync and Britney Spears become part of the URBAN Culture?"
You ain't know, playboy? You better come uptown where I lay at. Past 12:00 am, all you hear on Lenox Ave. is "Oops I Did It Again" bumpin in them system jeeps.
"I dont own a cd by either of them nor the Backstreet Boys..."
Shit, I wouldn't go around admitting it if I were you. UBO's gonna use them in their new new advertising campaign--famous faces printed on toilet paper, saying "I am UBO." That way, the UBO brand is the last thing you see before you blow your nose or wipe ya ass.
N'Sync run dis.
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the ny times race series was a piece of shit. allow the grey old lady to pat herself on the ass for forcing coverage of scary colored people, and maybe win a pulitzer prize or two. here's where you can have a special section for colored folks with safe content. Never mind that they wouldn't dare touch real issues about colored people and other disadvantaged groups, i.e. building electrical power plants, water treatment facilities, etc. uptown, on the lower east side, chinatown, etc., more coverage on the black-washing of the republican party as a ploy to get minority votes; that shit makes me sick.
anyone have a preference for our next US president? btw, the source election guide was aight . . . .
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I could not agree more! Impact has gotten much better and I look forward to reading it.....
In the beginning of SP you could easily get on Andy's guest list to functions. I never understood the rumor mill section!
We do need to turn this board's attention to film, televsion, politics. Anybody going to LA for the convention? I hear Will Smith's party is going to be the hot spot of LA. |
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Will Smith plays a golf caddy in his next movie. Has his agent heard of Tiger Woods? |
Definitely on point article. Soul Purpose is trash it's approaching the level of spam when I recieve it. I will say this though the new feature were they interview an established "tastemaker" is quite interesting. Other than that Andy Platnum comes across like a homo, with as much charm as that annoying Vibe Confidential bitch. |
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Oduduwa: I live in downtown bk... where COMMON & JILL SCOTT & HIP HOP are the call of the day...
UBO's gonna use them in their new new advertising campaign--famous faces printed on toilet paper, saying "I am UBO." now thats funny....
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don't tell me that the roots picked an erykah badu for the "you got me hook" over jil scott purely for commercial reasons . . .that would be a true fucking shame . . . |
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BIG J they did and it did what it needed to do... IT GOT THEM A GRAMMY.... |
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How can I obtain James Andrews newsletter? is there a mailing list? how do I subscribe? |
Yes. To Subscribe. You can email him at SoulPrpse@aol.com...
Is that any indication to pick another name, when someone already has your name on AOL? Hmmmm...
I'll forward you a recent edition... |
Soulpurpose is one gay newsletter and the site is even worse.Who gives a shit what that homo Andy has to say, I'd sooner take Richard Simmons advice on what's cool than that fruitcake Andy. The next 40 List is also complete garbage with Ananda Lewis making the list. The question is these people are the next 40 what? The next 40 people you will never hear of again, besides on this gay website. |
I would like to know when all these urban portals will just merge together because I'm just tired of the same of stuff. In my opinion, I feel that Impact 24/7 will be the main urban portal and no offense to the rest of them but you can't begin to talk about the urban lifestyle if you are not living it 24/7. One more statement before I move on, we are living in the age of Aquarius and that means having and sharing knowledge. If you are not talking about the mental, physical,social,spiritual and economic growth and development of people then truly you are not saying much.
Peace
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I would like to know when all of these urban portals will just merge together because I'm just tired of the same of stuff. In my opinion, I feel that Impact 24/7 will be the main urban portal and no offense to the rest of them but you can't begin to talk about the urban lifestyle if you are not living it 24/7. One more statement before I move on, we are living in the age of Aquarius and that means having and sharing knowledge. If you are not talking about the mental, physical,social,spiritual and economic growth and development for the people then truly you are not saying much.
Peace
Life Allah |
I would like to know when all of these urban portals will just merge together because I'm just tired of the same of stuff. In my opinion, I feel that Impact 24/7 will be the main urban portal and no offense to the rest of them but you can't begin to talk about the urban lifestyle if you are not living it 24/7. One more statement before I move on, we are living in the age of Aquarius and that means having and sharing knowledge. If you are not talking about the mental, physical,social,spiritual and economic growth and development for the people then truly you are not saying much. Since today is the 10th- I will say knowledge the cipher and you'll know!
Peace
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Peace Life Allah, that is true indeed!
I think the reason the sites on UE are being ripped is because they offer NOTHING in the way of thought-provoking content. A lot of the content on 360hiphop.com, ubo.net, etc. are words spoken/written without knowledge, and therefore don't contain wisdom.
There are some vital sites out there - I check on www.alternet.org on the regular, and platform.net does provide some in-depth content.
I'm hoping that the current trend of ignorance broadcast via entertainment is on the way out, and that we'll have a renaissance of artists, MCs, poets, journalists, etc. who will represent in new media, print, radio, television and other mediums.
Otherwise, history is doomed to repeat itself.
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I disagree that Impact will eventually be the leader in this space. Urban Expose has the strongest brand name by far of most of the urban portals. Even though, it's tongue and cheek, I don't know one person in the space who doesn't check it at least once a day to find out the hot topic.
Andrew Jackson, perhaps if UE took some of your suggestions and then added a board monitor (some of these posts are on the new crack) I am sure that UE could bypass Impact and Soul Purpose as the leader in reporting urban entertainment news.
We know that UE already has the eyeballs and most likely mucho hits. |
Yo, so when you talk about Impact 24/7's newsletter are you talking about the hard copy magazine or is there an e-zine on the web?If so how do I get it? |
To Tanya Gregory, I see that you are pro Urban Expose and I agree that many people do check the site at least once. I know that I do! What I'm saying is what if Urban Expose and Impact 24/7 merged? You'll have real people doing real things! There's only real knowledge when there is real people. That is why Urban Expose has the strongest brand name because its dealing with the truth as it relates to the urban space. Impact 24/7 has not even launched yet but when it does it will have Impact! |
Peace Jake. I don't know if there's an e-zine going on, if you want to subscribe email
Impact247daily <impact247daily@vanguarde.com>. |
Forget all these suggestions for UE change it's formula. The only thing UE needs to do is keep bringing the heat to these wack ass urban sites and their gay worthless executives. UE is the smartest "urban" site on the web. By the way has anyone checked out the tour of Russel Simmons house on 360, where the price of each piece of furniture is shown and we are told how Hillary Clinton sat on one of his couches. What a fag! The question is who got Russell's wife pregnant because Russell sure isn't doing anything to Kimora except maybe her hair.
Yo, the most morbid overdose off it Like cindy crawford's baby comatose in the coffin
I'm awful, often unlawful
Crack you with a softball in your skull
Until you've lost all your memory, every morsel
Mutilate the beat, rejuvenate the street
While you duplicate, repeat
Leave you lookin like bloody lubricated meat
I've got a gun to pull
And I'm comfortable
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reguarding vanguarde...
yo i'm tired of y'all jockin vanguarde up in here!!!! though they have mad potential.... vanguarde neomedia obviously don't know what the hell they are doing with thier websites. otherwise they would be here by now, or at least have more than the wakk flash promos in place of their sites.
www.vanguardeneomedia.com - how can you consider yourself a real new media company and your own company website looks like that? at least update the image to show all of your web properties and provide some links to them. damn... common sense goes a long way!
www.urbaniq.com - at least this is a real site, but does anyone else write 'research' for them other than guy primus? and, how about updating what info is up there? wassup with padding your site with regurgitated impact magazine articles? will anyone buy their research anyway?
www.isister.com - i heard that was y'all is that true? it has been nothin more than a flash promo w/ a registration button since i heard of it months ago!!! do something with it or let it die!
www.sidehustle.com - i've seen the email newsletter, but waddupwit that site? dead the flash intro -- or at least give me an option to skip that bullshit!!! and wassup with that bullshit main page? yer web presence is nothing but funking forms? pahhhlease! and another thing.... if you are really talkin 'bout sidehustles then why are you advertising real day-job 9-5 ful-time type gigs? that ain't about the hustle at all! ps. you have code errors in your html newsletter.
www.impact24.com7 - dead the flash demo. where is the online content to accompany to much jocked rag?
www.adhere.com - not here! and if it was would it matter? y'all gonna try to do battle with Dubbah Clique?
www.mydaysandnights.com - again, dead the flash intro! and, if all y'all have is michaelleslie.com than what is the point of your concept. put up or shut up on the other diary sites already. to the girl named michael - your life is hella funny! i hope i don't end up on your site one day.
www.enterdex.com - what the funk is that? dead the flash intro, or at least provide a skip switch and put up some dam content. at least explain what the funk its supposed to be.
bottom line. y'all had carazay time since impact to develop and roll out these concept sites. judgeing from the people i know that work over there - y'all need to lesson the fashion and beauty quotient and raise up the office's technical expertise levels.
y'all out-sourced all the real development to contractors who ain't gonna deliver shit (or they will do exactly that - deliver shit). i heard that y'all only have one project manager for all dem damn sites and that she don't know shit about the web (or a pc for that matter) and without proven experience how the hell do you expect her to make all them contracters do what you paid for? (not mad at you mommy, its your bosses fault)
Bo Kemp - waddupwidat?!?
funk urbanexpose for jockin impact247/vanguarde!!!! and yo mira juana... if impact247 and ue merged then this site would nolonger be all that impartial anymore - would it? oh but they are already on keith and bo's dick anyway. i wonder why.... oops.
mj called it... vanguarde neomedia will buy ue, they need to since they can't really launch their own shit.
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more vanguard ranting....
yo - i forgot to mention www.honeymag.com!!! that site is worse than essence.com's wakk site. come with it, or don't come at all. y'all done funked up the magaizine anyway. it ain't been the same since y'all bought it out from them chicks from the real hu. |
MY BAD... it was LIFE ALLAH that dropped the clue about the pending UE - Vanguard deal.
PS. MJ are you really sexy? At size 16 - Mommy... how tall are you? Sorry for the mis-ref on you from my earlier post. |
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quesion of the day:
when you meet an exectuive of Impact247, do they appear in flash?
I mean do they wear pvc, spandex and leather only?
do they speak in stereo?
do they glow at night?
i wnet ot half the sites that TeckieGeek identified and my eyes are burning |
LIFE, If Impact and UE merged, I believe that UE would be the stronger brand than impact and thus should warrant, a site unto it's own, it's own entity. Though I think that Impact 24/7's newsletter has improved and the writing is pretty strong. I would always wonder just how long would it take for Impact to deteriorate into SoulPurpose's newsletter. Do we really need two urban newsletters reporting on how many cars Suge Knight has?
From a business standpoint, if Vanguarde were to aquire this site, it would be the only viable internet venture it has. Beacuse from the looks of the outlines of their upcoming sites, Everything that Vanguarde's new media segment does is sure to TANK. |
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Tekkie said:
<<bottom line. y'all had carazay time since impact to develop and roll out these concept sites...
...I heard that y'all only have one project manager for all dem damn sites and that she don't know shit about the web (or a pc for that matter) and without proven experience how the hell do you expect her to make all them contracters do what you paid for? >>
Damn, is he talking about UBO or VOLUME?? |
HEY TECKIE GEEK....WITH ALL YOUR WISDOM...WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SITE?YALL CRITIC MOTHERFUCKERS IS BITCHES....SIT ON THE SIDELINE AND COMMENTATE WHILE YOU AINT DOING SHIT YASELF....YA CRITICISM DON'T HELP NOTHING OR NOBODY BUT YOUR WEAK ASS EGO!!!!! |
Industry Standard, August 11, 2000
Harsh Urban Realities
Once viewed as gold mines, sites aimed primarily at the African American market are now struggling.
By Kenneth Li
NEW YORK – As recently as June, the urban Internet market beckoned investors and entrepreneurs.
In January, for example, former Motown Records chief George Jackson launched the Urban Box Office Network, comprising a dozen or so entertainment sites. (Jackson died soon after.) In April, Daymond John, cofounder of urban-clothing company Fubu extended his brand online and re-launched Y2G.com, a music and lifestyle site. And just two months ago, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons launched 360hiphop.com.
These sites feature entertainment and lifestyle-related content aimed at a young black audience with a heavy dose of multicultural material.
Now some of the category's leading sites are struggling: NetNoir, the pioneer that started in 1995 with a $500,000 investment from America Online , has laid off much of its senior management. And despite backing from Cox Interactive, 1-year-old BlackFamilies.com shuttered its doors two weeks ago. Add to the list the highly anticipated, but never launched, Time Warner-HBO-funded Volume.com; the site laid off nearly half its staff as part of an overhaul.
"It's a poker game," says Fred Wilson , an Urban Box Office board member and partner at investment firm Flatiron Partners . "Everyone's running out of money. They're all looking at each other to see who's got the guts to keep playing."
"Whatever is happening in the general market is compounded in the urban market," adds BET.com COO Scott Mills. "A lot of urban players who just recently accessed the market raised money [based on] metrics that pulled out underneath them."
What's the problem? For starters, the market itself is elusive. Not a single executive interviewed was able to gauge its size, partly because it's loosely defined as inner-city youths of all ethnic stripes, and young black cultural tastemakers – and the white kids who follow them.
The second problem is that many of the sites – Urban Box Office, for example – are laden with technology that works best on broadband.
Less than 10 percent of all households in America have access to high-speed Internet services.
Finally, it's hard to make money online with content. Even companies with major-media backing such as CBS MarketWatch and TheStreet.com have struggled.
When the sites were launched, they were taking aim at what promised to be an audience loaded with potential. A 1999 Forrester Research report estimated that the online African American market was growing 44 percent a year – the fastest growth rate of any ethnic minority.
That study caught the attention of blue-chip corporations at a time when Black Entertainment Television CEO Bob Johnson's relationship with Microsoft (in the form of MSBET.com) was getting stale. In November, Johnson pitched his ailing dot-com business to a team of new investors. BET.com was re-energized with a capital infusion of $35 million from a blue-chip roster of tech and media companies that included Liberty Digital , Microsoft, News Corp. and USA Networks .
At the BET.com launch press conference, Johnson said that the reason most African Americans didn't go online was the dearth of relevant content. That statement captured the thinking behind most of the sites, which create and deliver news, information and entertainment to the underserved – at least online – market.
The sites' creators "felt that if they build it they will come," says David Ellington, CEO of NetNoir. In March, NetNoir landed $11 million in financing from urban radio conglomerate Radio One , AOL and others.
But that was before the market headed south.
That initial drive for relevant content, at least in the form of broadband entertainment, is now over. After the April stock market downturn, Ellington was forced to recast his content-driven company as a personal productivity and community business. NetNoir slashed more than a quarter of its staff, including its chief financial, technical and marketing officers. "I'm trying to get out of content," says Ellington about his company's repositioning. "I want to be content-light and tool- and applications-heavy."
Likewise, the Time Warner -HBO-financed urban entertainment site Volume, which has spent nearly $6 million according to one former high-ranking employee, reorganized last month, before the site even launched. Last month the company laid off nearly half of its staff and is moving away from creating original content. Instead, Volume CEO Kevin Dowdell says the company will borrow content across Time Warner's vast empire and rely on distribution and technology from AOL, which is expected to merge with Time Warner. Dowdell says he anticipates Volume will be profitable in one or two years.
"Given the facts that exist in the marketplace," says Dowdell, "the economics are so drastically out of line that you can't do anything but call it a learning experience."
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OOOOHHHHH, Somebody who posted works for Vanguarde, can you guess who? Hey instead of being bitter, try to work it out over there, okay? Then you wont have to be mad!
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If all that TeckieGeek said about Vanguarde is true.... YIKES!!! Seems that UE needs to send a reporter down to their offices to report the real deal-e-o.
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LSA100X Must work for Vanguarde New Media being sooooo defensive on a site like this... designed just for the type of post that T.G. posted.
Though TeckieGeek was very very critical... one can follow the URLs provided in his/her note and.... ummm, judge for themselves.
Have you no other rebuttal than calling TeckieGeek, who seems to know a little about something, an ego trippin bitch?
I wanna see a real dialogue about the merits or lack there of of what was said.
Teckie Geek may be an bitter ex-employee, but what was said might help y'all fix up your act before you 'go live'. When will that be anyway?
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Security - it looks like that entire post by the Geekster was all about Vanguarde properties - not UBO or Volume. But if the shoe fits....
MJ - For real though.... how tall are you mama?
TeckieGeek - Do you have a beef w/ Mr. Kemp? Did you get fired from Vanguarde? Are you up to something petty - or are you just mad cause Impact24/7 seems to be the only one to actually get big-ups from this site?
Either way... seems like Vanguarde has been formally "CHALL - ONGED". How will they respond?
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Laughing my ass off this morning.
I'm 5' 8" without my shell toes.
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I have to go w/ techiegeek is his reviews . . . again . . . don't build a flash intro with the instruction manual that came with flash . . . you really need to come up with much better than sliding bars and boxes and text that jump in and out . . . I'm no bad boy fan and puffy can suck mah dick but his site is da shit . . . www.badboyonline.com . . . and peep the people who designed it . . www.kioken.com . . incidently, they did 360hiphop but they have nothing to do w/ the content, only the design . . . but word up . . the bad boy site . . peep it |
Good Look, Miranda on the link. Wits, self-lessness(if that's a word), Intelligence, and much clout. Shit if we were intimate I could lay you down on your 120+ points of clout while I put my meager, flacid (but still growing!)clout points on the nightstand next to the clock radio and you know the rest. (Insert triple X boasts here.).
But on another note, I'm impressed by the way Tommy Boy is marketing DeLa, it's about time they stood behing some shit other than MTV's Jock Jamz 2001, or whatever. |
Freelance, yeah the Bad Boy is cool. It definitely looks like 360 the kioken kids look like they did a two for one deal with them cats. I still fuck with sites like Okayplayer when it comes to design and function. |
Not to be on sum ol' Hollywood Squares three in a row posts type shit, but fuck what cats are saying I went to the Volume .com sit to again see how "soon" that shit is coming and this was the first time I caught the little spoken word shit. I fuck with that shit, whoever posts on here from Volume -be proud i tip my hat to you, cause ya'll had me crying all on my mouse pad and shit. |
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i think the poetry sucks at volume.com. it's like a fake dmx. it even has a fake "arrrgh". surprised it doesn't have some mathematics in it or something.
what ever happened to sha-key? remember she was doing poetry.
she must have gotten married to some girl at hbo and moved away to long island living the quiet life making eggs for her wife.
she was like a Me'S hell NdegeOcello without talent.
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i think that impact 24/7 is pretty good.
soul purpose newsletter is so bad. they talk about bullshit that no one cares about. i have seen better written articles in street news and blacks and computers.
the product is just inferior. in case you didn't know James Andrews is andy platnum. He couldn't even spell platinum properly when he started the newsletter a while back. he denies it , which is understandable because he doesnt want to take credit for that bad writing.
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Yo!
You all are right about No Purpose.com. They have been boasting that same tired-ass subscriber list of "15,000" tastemakers forever and a day. They were even able to secure a Wall Street Journal Article a few months ago (see March 2000 past issues) . My grandmother's site has more subscribers!
People we need INFORMATIVE sites with user-friendly applications. Content will not make you money alone. You need to offer something more!
And just because your focus is urban culture, you can include other newsworthy info that doesn't necessarily have the word "urban" in it! Damn let's get it together!
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To Life Allah and others,
It would not be necessarily the best move if all these portals merged because then there would be no competition. Competition makes us and businesses better. Just look at Ebony Magazine. For decades it was the first and only black-oriented magazine out. And our community and the magazine itself suffered as a result of that. We must continue to have a choice in where we get our info from. Therefore, that raises everyone's game. This forum in particular is a great way for these new media executives to learn so lessons about what the people want. If I were them, I would have this site on my desktop and check everyday. What we say here is not just for show, it's for real!
Loved your positive thoughts Life! |
To Life Allah and others,
It would not be necessarily the best move if all these portals merged because then there would be no competition. Competition makes us and businesses better. Just look at Ebony Magazine. For decades it was the first and only black-oriented magazine out. And our community and the magazine itself suffered as a result of that. We must continue to have a choice in where we get our info from. Therefore, that raises everyone's game. This forum in particular is a great way for these new media executives to learn so lessons about what the people want. If I were them, I would have this site on my desktop and check everyday. What we say here is not just for show, it's for real!
Loved your positive thoughts Life! |
i got charts...
yo i was lookin on amazon.com for something completely unrelated when i came across the amazon top 100 cd list. wondering how 'urban' music rated on amazon i followed the link, only to find:
there are no hiphop artists on the top 25... not much of anything that anyone could consider urban in the top 50. 'xept for
36. Eminem
44. De La Soul
50. Jill Scott
SO THE QUESTION IS: ARE WE BUYING CDS ONLINE? IF WE WON'T BUY THEM FROM AMAZON, WILL BUY THEM FROM AN URBAN PLAY (that compared to amazon offer less stock, insecure transactions and inferior delivery systems)?
*note* amazon's list is dynamic -- based on their sales, so the numbers may be different when you go check.
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Sorry to double-post, I want to make double-certain that every One reads this...
WHILE CLAUDE & OTHER FAULTY PUBLISHERS/EDITORS ARE BULLSHITTING...
Check out www.nwu.org - the National Writers Union! They have an array of services geared toward
protecting writers and journalists, whether full-time or freelance. ALSO, they have an area where you can rate
magazines/publishers/editors (including online) based on rate of pay, how long they take to pay, etc.! Word.
Finally, the dues are not high, from $95 to $210 per year, depending on how much you're making as a
journalist/writer - sliding scale - AND they even help people get royalties when their print work is published
online.
Please spread the word!
Miranda Jane
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Trebor, try these - not all are solely urban, however definitely on the political tip...>
http://www.alternet.org
http://indymedia.org
http://www.seditious.com
Enjoy!
p.s. Also for HILARIOUS parody news stories, check for
http://www.theonion.com
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03/30/2000
[S]hit
Behind current blaxploitation pulp literature is - surprise! - the music biz
By Anthony Mariani
In 1998 Saul Williams generated some buzz by co-writing and starring in the hit of the Cannes and Sundance film festivals, Slam, a breezy tale about spoken-word poetry in New York. Just a few months later MTV Books, capitalizing on his name, released a "book" of Williams's doggerel, She. A typical Williams poem makes Santana look like Santayana. Take the title piece: "she is leaving me / for the sun / she may be disappointed / when she learns / that we are twins." Eighteen words, one idea. Somewhere, a high school sophomore is crying copyright infringement. Evoking winces from actual poets, She indicated the depths to which a multinational company like Viacom, which owns MTV, will sink to gain entrée to a new market.
The book was never really much of a book anyway, but more of a steroid-enhanced "product" to flaunt MTV's synergistic might.
To every bound copy of She, MTV attached a CD of Williams's spoken word. Seeing some sort of market, if you could call it that, for coffee-drinkin' poetry lovers who also happen to indulge occasionally in MTV staples Britney Spears or Ricky Martin, the music channel hyped the book with the kind of vigor usually reserved for anything with Madonna's name on it. Though the book appealed to the Starbucks crowd, the idea behind it never caught on, and MTV execs may still be fishing their tails out from between their legs.
Still, the idea of pop lit lives. In addition to MTV Books, whose product line also includes three works of Gen-X fiction, another publishing company with musical ties is coming cold correct with even more crap. In cahoots with publishing guru Marc Gerald, actor/magazine-skimmer Wesley "Blade" Snipes recently co-founded [S]Affiliated, which publishes what the company brazenly refers to in its promotional material as "hip-hop fiction." This month [S]Affiliated releases its first of six books, Ronin Ro's Street Sweeper, which will be taking up space on retail shelves everywhere. Other [S]Affiliated books set for release this year include Antoine Black's The International, Roland Jefferson's XXL Money, Gary Phillip's The Perpetrators, Joel Rose's Anything That Moves and Michael Gonzalez's Platinum.
The problem with [S]Affiliated's admittedly pulpy books is that they are being presented under the guise of genuine reading material, promising to offer to go "where no publisher has dared to go," according to promotional material, "into the streets, to tell stories about the true players and hustlers in the game." In reality, these books, if [S]Affiliated's first offering is any indication, may amount to nothing more than masked advertisements, pushing products as much as selling their authors to Hollywood.
Snipes's production company, Amen Ra Films, whose work is distributed by Universal Pictures (which, along with Universal Music Group, is part of the Seagram monolith), has already received first reading rights to Street Sweeper. Def Jam, itself distributed by Universal, is pressing "soundtracks," mix CDs of six or seven tunes from Def Jam/Universal artists, to accompany each book. And Red, an independent music distribution company owned by Sony, will help distribute the books with an assist from PNB NaTioN, hip-hop clothiers, which will sponsor special events and sell [S]Affiliated's titles along with baggy pants, knit caps and whatever other kinds of cool duds PNB pushes. Got it?
In an advance copy of Street Sweeper, Sony gets its props earliest. The ad attack is subtle. Hero Jerome Usher, a 22-year-old hit man, is an unabashed fan of Mobb Deep. The rap group's music ends up on Usher's hi-fi and on Usher's lips when he whistles: "[Usher] whistled Mobb Deep's 'G.O.D. Godfather Part III,' that Scarface keyboard riff." One night Usher even bumps into "one of the cats from Mobb Deep" while walking up a flight of stairs to a club. Could it be a coincidence that Mobb Deep, and most of the other acts mentioned by name in Ro's book -- such as "Michael Jackson" (which also serves as a nickname for one of the characters), "Cypress Hill" and "Big Pun" -- are all directly connected to Sony?
Probably not.
PNB also gets some love. In the beginning of chapter two, the hip-hop elite, including "Russell" (as in Simmons, president of [S]Affiliated-affiliated Def Jam) and "Puffy" (as in Combs, president of Bad Boy Entertainment), make their appearances at a posh New York City nightclub with "some burly cats from Brooklyn decked out in" -- what else? -- "PNB wool caps, heavy leather jackets, gold fronts, boots and blunts."
Universal also gets its due. Nearly every song title mentioned comes from an artist associated with either Sony or Universal. "Children's Story," by Slick Rick (Def Jam/Universal and Sony), "Microphone Fiend," by Eric B. & Rakim (Universal), "You Gots to Chill," by EPMD (Def Jam/Universal), and Sony artist Luther Vandross's version of Universal International artist Burt Bacharach's "A House Is Not a Home" all find their way into Ro's writing. Coincidence?
Artistically, all this stacking of name brands is just as cloying. Even the best novelists sometimes fall into the trap of developing a character through his possessions. If a character named Biff, for example, owns a BMW and a house in Beverly Hills and has the liberty to have his nails done occasionally, he must be an elitist, racist, old-moneyed hoity-toity, right? Same goes for a brother with all that and a bag of Fritos. Usher's entire identity can be summed up in a Rodeo Drive shopping list: "[Usher] tossed the remote onto the bed and entered an enormous walk-in closet. Rows of suits on hangers: Versace, Armani, Valentino, Hugo Boss, and Gucci. They were neat, clean, and costly as hell. But not a problem with steady work coming in.
"He opted for a black viscose blend snap closure by Ermenegildo Zegna, and within five minutes was dressed and slipping into his Ferragamos. Next he pulled out a drawer with his watches: Cartiers, Patek Philippes, Boucherons, you name it. He opted for his platinum Vacheron Constantin Overseas. FinallyŠ." You get the idea. He owns a Cartier, he must be dope.
After 90 words, though, we readers still know nothing of how this character thinks, what this character speaks like, even what he feels about his possessions -- only what brands he prefers. This is either character development for the writerly challenged or one helluva sales pitch. Though Ro is an exceptional journalist, having written Have Gun Will Travel, the book on Death Row Records and its iconic bully of a president, Suge Knight, the writer cannot summon his astute, insightful eye here. Writing for the silver screen and Lord & Taylor shoppers will do that, though.
Snipes, according to press material, "joined forces with Gerald to insure the development of a new breed of black action novelists and to give Amen Ra Š a first look at a steady stream of film material." It seems that, based on Snipes's stated goal and the minuscule intellectual heft of Ro's work, the paperback form has now become nothing more than another film-development and advertising tool -- not something meant to engage, but something meant to distract. Just like MTV. Just like Blade.
E-mail Anthony Mariani at anthony.mariani@houstonpress.com.
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Yo, this book company sounds like bullshit! Especially since I read some shit in the Associated Press where some of the authors said the white guy changed their shit all around and made everything stupid. I work for a magazine and got a copy of this company's "sampler." It was a little book that had chapters from all the other books, and they all read like the same guy wrote them. I think it was the white guy who owns the company. who the fuck is this marc gerald and why is he trying to make black people look bad? |
If Satan can do it, angelic Miranda can post long too.
Talk about setting a precedent, and putting your money where your mothajumpin mouth is! Check this press release, and if you run a print mag - get with the program!
Contact:
Adam Glickman/Tokion Magazine Managing Editor
(213) 626-7332 or adam@tokionusa.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tokion Magazine Launches Tokion Tree Fund on August 26th
Of course we are proud of our magazine, filled with beautiful photos of
glamorous fashion and music and pop culture, but we are also often filled
with guilt about how the product we create is produced. We took a look at
the cold, hard numbers and found out that roughly 9,500 magazines are
published regularly in the USA. Of those, 90% will be discarded within a
year of printing. Half the timber in the US and a third of all timber
worldwide is processed for paper. A single magazine like National
Geographic, with a monthly circulation of close to 10 million copies,
consumes roughly a million trees a year. We spoke with our printers and
paper suppliers and estimated that Tokion, with its bi-monthly schedule and
smaller print run, would need to replant roughly 840 trees per issue, or
roughly 5,000 trees per year, to give back what we take from the environment
in order to create our magazine. And that's what we're setting out to do.
Over the coming years Tokion plans to bring trees to urban neighborhoods
around the world, beginning with downtown Los Angeles. It's our own little
way of trying to moderate our intake.
Phase one of the project begins on August 26th with a day of tree planting
at Esperanza Elementary School, located at 680 Little Street (just west of
downtown LA). Tokion Magazine has partnered with Collage Ensemble, Inc., a
non-profit arts organization with a ten-year commitment to the West Downtown
LA area; a neighborhood comprised primarily of recent immigrants from
Central America. The Tokion Tree Fund's first project, with monies raised
from the Neo Graffiti Project (www.tokionusa.com) will match a $5,000 grant
from the City of Los Angeles Urban Reforestation Project for forty trees at
the school. The school's fifth grade students will care for the trees as
part of their regular science curriculum.
Nothing the Tokion Tree Fund does is possible without the support of
generous people like you. You can help in a number of different ways:
volunteer on August 26th and help with planting trees or donate food and/or
drinks for the hard-working volunteers. Monetary donations for the next
round of planting in the fall are always welcome as well. However you choose
to help us, please know that your contributions are deeply appreciated. If
you would like to help out on August 26th, or would like more information,
please contact us at: mail@tokionusa.com. Or you can send tax-deductible
contributions by mail. Please include the following information: name,
address, phone, e-mail and send it with your check written to Collage
Ensemble Inc. to:
Tokion Tree Fund
939 1/2 Chung King Road
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 626-7332 phone
(213) 626-7521 fax
Thank you for supporting The Tokion Tree Fund! |
Yo Miranda- Don't you have anything better to do all day than waste UE space with your boring ass posts. No one cares about some wack promotion for Tokion magazine. You better recognize slut before I put you up on my site, you will be drugged and chained to a wall. So watch your drinks when you are at the clubs you never know what some one can slip in to to a cosmopolitan while some chickenhead is clocking Mark Ronson or some other homo. I'll have that ass unconscious while I throw you in a cab and let the experiments begin. Get it, you're a slut and that's the end of it. |
Hey another asshole. Actually, I'm at work, I just have a cushy day job.
I don't drink, so that GHB shit won't fly over here. By the way, I live in L.A., so you won't catch me at any of those trendy NY night spots. I'm not THAT fresh that I can be in two places at once.
Further, I think you'll find certain people on this forum (and it is a forum - get it - free expression for all) will LOVE that post & the statement being made by that mag.
Peace. Always.
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Prospects Start to Dim for Urban Web Sites
By Kenneth Li
The Industry Standard
Friday , August 11 12:26 p.m.
As recently as June, the urban Internet market beckoned investors and entrepreneurs.
In January, for example, former Motown Records chief George Jackson launched the Urban Box Office Network, comprising a dozen or so entertainment sites. (Jackson died soon after.) In April, Daymond John, cofounder of urban-clothing company Fubu extended his brand online and re-launched Y2G.com, a music and lifestyle site. And just two months ago, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons launched 360hiphop.com.
These sites feature entertainment and lifestyle-related content aimed at a young black audience with a heavy dose of multicultural material.
Now some of the category's leading sites are struggling: NetNoir, the pioneer that started in 1995 with a $500,000 investment from America Online, has laid off much of its senior management. And despite backing from Cox Interactive, 1-year-old BlackFamilies.com shuttered its doors two weeks ago. Add to the list the highly anticipated, but never launched, Time Warner-HBO-funded Volume.com; the site laid off nearly half its staff as part of an overhaul.
''It's a poker game,'' says Fred Wilson, an Urban Box Office board member and partner at investment firm Flatiron Partners. ''Everyone's running out of money. They're all looking at each other to see who's got the guts to keep playing.'' (Flatiron Partners is an Inside investor.)
''Whatever is happening in the general market is compounded in the urban market,'' adds BET.com COO Scott Mills. ''A lot of urban players who just recently accessed the market raised money [based on] metrics that pulled out underneath them.''
What's the problem? For starters, the market itself is elusive. Not a single executive interviewed was able to gauge its size, partly because it's loosely defined as inner-city youths of all ethnic stripes, and young black cultural tastemakers - and the white kids who follow them.
The second problem is that many of the sites - Urban Box Office, for example - are laden with technology that works best on broadband.
Less than 10 percent of all households in America have access to high-speed Internet services.
Finally, it's hard to make money online with content. Even companies with major-media backing such as CBS MarketWatch and TheStreet.com have struggled.
When the sites were launched, they were taking aim at what promised to be an audience loaded with potential. A 1999 Forrester Research report estimated that the online African American market was growing 44 percent a year - the fastest growth rate of any ethnic minority.
That study caught the attention of blue-chip corporations at a time when Black Entertainment Television CEO Bob Johnson's relationship with Microsoft (in the form of MSBET.com) was getting stale. In November, Johnson pitched his ailing dot-com business to a team of new investors. BET.com was re-energized with a capital infusion of $35 million from a blue-chip roster of tech and media companies that included Liberty (LDIG) Digital, Microsoft, News Corp. and USA Networks.
At the BET.com launch press conference, Johnson said that the reason most African Americans didn't go online was the dearth of relevant content. That statement captured the thinking behind most of the sites, which create and deliver news, information and entertainment to the underserved - at least online - market.
The sites' creators ''felt that if they build it they will come,'' says David Ellington, CEO of NetNoir. In March, NetNoir landed $11 million in financing from urban radio conglomerate Radio One, AOL and others.
But that was before the market headed south.
That initial drive for relevant content, at least in the form of broadband entertainment, is now over. After the April stock market downturn, Ellington was forced to recast his content-driven company as a personal productivity and community business. NetNoir slashed more than a quarter of its staff, including its chief financial, technical and marketing officers. ''I'm trying to get out of content,'' says Ellington about his company's repositioning. ''I want to be content-light and tool- and applications-heavy.''
Likewise, the Time Warner-HBO-financed urban entertainment site Volume, which has spent nearly $6 million according to one former high-ranking employee, reorganized last month, before the site even launched. Last month the company laid off nearly half of its staff and is moving away from creating original content. Instead, Volume CEO Kevin Dowdell says the company will borrow content across Time Warner's vast empire and rely on distribution and technology from AOL, which is expected to merge with Time Warner. Dowdell says he anticipates Volume will be profitable in one or two years.
''Given the facts that exist in the marketplace,'' says Dowdell, ''the economics are so drastically out of line that you can't do anything but call it a learning experience.''
Comments, thoughts? I will post mine a little later...
Told ya'll Jill Scott's the truth!
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To: TeckieGeek
You are sooo on point. Even though I am one of the biggest UE boosters around there is a fairly strong link between them and Vanguarde. I have come to the conclusion that either Vanguarde is in the process of buying them or has already bought them. Here is why:
1) The first picture on the site was of Keith Clinkscales the Vanguarde CEO and he still resides in the bigshots section.
2) UE has never done a story on the wack design and the horrible content of the Vanguarde sites, take a look at Impactmag.com to see design as bad if not worse then soul purpose. Note that the site certianly doesnt get updated 24/7 its more like every 30 days.
3) The original address listed for UE is 44 Wall st., the same as Vangurde. Everyone assumes that it was put there as a form of decption by UE, it also possible that it that address because its really a Vangurde property.
4) In the Fight Club article they did a few weeks ago Bo Kemp CEo fo Vanguarde was listed as hte new media executive most likelt to kick everyone elses ass in a street fight. Why is that?
Artisha
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''I'm trying to get out of content,'' says Ellington about his company's repositioning. ''I want to be content-light and tool- and applications-heavy.''
Content Light. What more can I say. |
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Soaps Make Digital Strides Even as Prime-Time TV Strikes Out on the Web
By Staci D. Kramer
Wednesday, August 09 06:10 p.m.
<<So, on Days of Our Lives, some 270,000 users visited NBC.com to choose between Stefano and John as the father of Hope's baby. On Passions, as lovelorn Theresa confided in her laptop diary, fans who logged on to the site could watch the words scroll across their computer screens. On the day the diary show aired, page views on the Passions site totaled 561,000, more than 20 times the site's average.>>
Maybe Russell should do a "who is Kimora's baby daddy?" on 360 to get the traffic up. Maybe show LL having cyber-sex on his lap top. Oh wait, BET.COM already did that corny shit with D'Angelo. oops. |
this is starting to sound like bickering. please avoid petty shit like this so i can continue to use your site for a NEUTRAL inside scoop. leave it alone! |
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that is funny Security!
maybe kevin dowdell and kevin powell can hook up and do a webcast called Kevin2Kevin where they both stroke their immense ego's and give each other lectures and lenghty oral diatribes about the media industries.
no one would learn anything , of course is the goal of good entertainment.
as a side note. i think kevin powell is untalented. if anyone has stretched his fifteen minutes for all it's worth, it's kevin powell. |
Yo, what up with all the cut and paste bullshit. the shit is tired, if I want that shit i will go to soulpurpose the very site we are supposed to be speaking on. I'ts obvious UE needs to bring another story to the table so we can rant aboutit. But until then, let me get on some Mike Myers coffee talk shit. Here's a topic, "Do you UE subscribers post to say something insightful-or even important or is it just to boost this idea of "cyber clout" Talk amongst yourselves, I'm perklempft. |
Read above post. This here is just to get in double digits. lol. Thuglife, i will beat your score! |
I see that the site is back up and functioning.... there were SQL errors this morning when i tried to post. UE - y'all are can't be slammin' everyone else's broke site if yours is also broke down!!! |
Hey If every fed up potential voter went ahead and voted for Ralph Nader..we would all win
Forget Gore and Bush--Ralph Nader |
I've peeped out the Soul Purpose site, I must say that having to register and create account just to read the article was itself a turn-off. They act as if their info top secert or something.
Perhaps they should follow Black Planet lead and at least have the surfers preview the site before they can decide if it's worth registering. Or at least let us read the articles for pete's sake!
What in the world is a tastemaker, anyway?!
But other than that, I'm glad that UE had something positive to say about a site (Impact24/7). Is safe to say that UE is an authority on quality sites? |
You can visit www.tastemakers.com. I kid you not.
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I peeped the site..was that it? Nice design, though. |
Sp is wack ass hell. they have no understanding to what is really going on in urban culture and the tech sucks to. this is the main reason why i can't get a vc involved in my projects cuzz these wack ass suit negro's is fucking it up and running to the bank. they have no talent, creativity or heart. Watch how many people produce original content on the web with no backing and take over this bitchhhhhh....
Look for www.RDMTV.com coming soon..... Also props to www.Y2G.com they are doing it.. watch how they blow...take a look at there original programing (centerseat) this is the wave of the future baby.... |
Impact has it on lock!!!!!!!!!! |
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JAKE are u offering a challenge.... ????? LOL |
Y2G?, Impact?.....woooh people getting rest-less! |
Let's not get crazy here Impact is the best among te bums. Competing against SP is not that hard. And the sad thing theremay never be a newsletter to truly capture the pulse on the "urban culture" because it's too fat paced and dynamic. C'mon "tastemakers" slow down for a sec. |
UrbanPro:
Please email me your correct email address.
(To get mine, click on my name.)
Thanks
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SoulPurpose is something special. I've come across a few good articles, but the site is so confusing
and error-laden. Good ideas, poor execution. I ignore the newsletter mostly, doesn't have links to articles or anything.
Hopefully, they'll put forth some effort and work something out over there. As was stated before, there isn't much out there to compete against.
I enjoy UrbanExpose, but i really doubt they will ever attempt to become an "urban news source," and hopefully they won't. The real draw here isn't their
articles, but the responses on the boards. Sometimes the article aren't exactly informative, but they do their job in sparking discussions and amusing rants
from the board mavens that are far more valuable than anything the UE staff should expect to provide. Especially, with people posting stories and rumors, UE has
found a very efficient method of "journalism": just toss out some juicy rumor steaks and funny sarcastic biscuits, and watch the industry pitbulls and mastiffs rip into them and each other.
A frenzy of flying fur and morsels of insight will litter the boards. Outstanding concept. Though many board posters encourage UE to expand, i disagree. Stick to what you know and can handle for a while, don't be like
these other foolish player with their "I'm Every Website, It's All in Me" attitude.
Back to SP, get rid of the confusing layout, the free e-mail foolishness, and drop the Andy Platnum off a bridge with cement shoes, lead gloves, and a steel Kangol.
Oh, and UE, if you want to slam other sites, you need to be anal in the maintenance of your own. Your E-MAIL THIS ARTICLE TO A FRIEND doesn't work. Otherwise, keep up the great work.
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"...drop the Andy Platnum off a bridge with cement shoes, lead gloves, and a steel Kangol"
Even better line.
But wouldn't the steel Kangol protect his head?
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someone told me that james andrews and david watkins were caught tongue kissing in the office one night. How ill is that? |
From the latest Soul Purpose...
That ribbon is Bad Boy GM Ron Gillyard who is rumored to take
the head position at Clive's newly formed BMG ship. Though this is
unconfirmed, we processed this rumor as the calls began rolling in.
Does Ron Gillyard become Davis's version of Strauss Zelnick's L.A.
Reid??? Is the new trend to bring in black figureheads to quarterback
entire music groups??? Black quarterbacks are in fashion now (see
Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, etc.) The Clive Davis
way of doing things is to groom executives. This move would be a sign
that Gillyard is the guy. Their association of doing business
together was a result of the Bad Boy/Arista relationship. What was it
that Davis saw in Gillyard during those days????
I hope that Andy Platnum is black, because it seems to me he is implying that black executives shouldn't get the just due they deserve. Last time I checked, Hip-Hop and Urban music was outselling any Genre of music on the charts..Country, pop, you name it, Hip-Hop is outselling it. What does Andy think that the major label machine would hire, a wanna be such as himself that is more content on throwing parties and putting a list of whos who on an email list, or a seasoned veteran like LA Reid? Let's not forget that Strauss Zelnick don't "own" these fellas as dickhead Jones is insuating...last time I checked, LAFace sold for $200,000,000....Quadruple the worth of fucking UBO and Soul..shitty Purpose...
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andy platnum is james andrews, a jerry curled sucker who got fired from sony after he bootlegged nas' album, adam matthews said. I think also that lawrence jacobson is a serious NUT who answers his own e-mails, and may be potentially DANGEROUS. everyone watch out! |
Lisa, what makes you think I answer my own emails? Where in the hell did you come up with that one? I think we better watch out for PMSing Schizo women who make up rants about me answering my own emails...you are kind of strange woman. |
Lisa one more thing...the only "nut" i have in me, is the the nut that could end up all over your face in the UBO office..hahahaha..oops sorry about that. If you want to type something back, go ahead I deserve it. hahaha |
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Thuglite, agreeing with Lisa isn't going to get you into any parties or get you any ass, if that is what you are doing...agreeing that I am a nut...not one of my posts have been off topic...and if you check her other posts on this site, she has a track record of calling other people nuts....makes me wonder about her....and what do you want me to bring? I am a Jewish nobody that lives off of my parents...hahah |
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Jake = Lawerence .... ok but to make it clear... i wasnt agreeing with LISA on call you a nut, i was agreeing with her on the WATKINS and ANDREWS incident at UBO... and i dont have to agree with LISA to get into parties or get ass... i can get into parties on my own without kissing ass...
ps this is what u said ...Thuglife, i will beat your score! ... its THUGLITE learn it... looks like u got a lot of catching up to do
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Lawrence,
I don't care whether you're an angry jew or not, but, why wouldn't you answer your own e-mail? |
Lawrence Jacob---please, man, just stop! You are misrepresenting the Jews and the male gender with your I'm trying to impress the brothers by talking about how I almost beat up a girl in Florida.
What the fuck was that?? Like it was no big deal. I can see the postcard now:
Dear Eminem,
Having a great time in Florida! Today I went to The Epcot Center with my folks, got a killer sunburn, and almost smacked a bitch.
Your #1 Fan,
Lawrence
What is your problem? Get a Y chromosome and stop trying so hard to be a man. Only a weak, sorry motherfucker talks about hitting a woman. Nobody is impressed. And nobody is glad your ass is back in town.
But since you're here, you better keep your hands off the ladies or you will be pulled from that cozy bed in your parents' house for the beatdown of a lifetime.
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Dear UR
I am terribly sorry but you are mistaken. I guess we have another case of another nobody posting on the board who surfed in from AOL..haha...someone who won't post their real name, yet threatens me with a beatdown? Get real, that won't happen in this lifetime, or the next one, if I come back. Further more, if any one I don't know puts their hands on me, male or female, in a way I don't like, there is going to be some drama. Is that so irrational? Thuglite, if I was mistaken, I am offering my apologies to you here, sorry. I misread your ermail. I just can't for the life of me, figure out why Lisa wrote that I respond to my own emails (as if I send emails to myself, and then respond to them too), and why she called me a nut that is dangerous. What I posted was on topic of what we are talking about. Maybe because she works for UBO, she has to cover her ass, if Mr. Watkins sees it, he may try to tongue kiss her too! hahah |
ohh, and this is the last time I will waste this valuable board space replying to nobodies...for the record, and for the rest of the board, contrary to what UR the nobody said, I never mentioned hitting a girl or a female in my post. Read what the post says, don't twist the words. UR should have been a reporter for the OJ Simpson case, the way he (or she, or heshe) twists words around. I am going to my parents summer house to waste more of my life away. I will see you guys later. I am pissed off. |
Oh, baby, I'm so sorry you're pissed off1 Just don't take it out on some innocent girl, m'kay?
Because we will find you in the Hamptons, too. |
UR: I will give you my address in the Hamptons honey and you can come skinny dip in my mom and dads pool. There is no need for all the hatred here. You are wasting board space. I think you may even be Lisa posting under an alias. Damn, I didn't know PMS lasted so long. Don't threaten me, cause I got a lot of Hasidic sisters that will tear into your little petite ass. hehehe. I am done replying to you about this. Have a nice life, NOBODY!
LJ |
Lawrence Jacobson is a pathetic black man who hides behind a Semitic pseudonym and blames Jewish people for his own shortcomings and flaws. He cannot post under his own name. He also hates women and would love to sleep with a man. I think his idea of a dream date is Eminem, since he is a self-hating black man who has to come onto this site with a white name-- thinking his real name won't get him attention. Lawrence, you are a no-dick coward. Real tough guys don't talk or boast on bulletin boards. I can tell you don't even have a girlfriend, because YOU'RE THE BROKE ASS NIGGA who works for an internet company, gets shit on at work, and comes on this site to pretend to be someone with power. But you're the nobody. If you're so tough, post an address where people can come visit you and talk about these things in person. YOU COWARD! |
haha lisa, you are just a woman, who has no power, a woman who is frustrated with her job at UBO, and you are a woman who is probably a lesbian that can't get a man with that attitude. For one, what would my race matter? Are you one of these ignorant people that believes being Jewish is a race? You have just shown your intelligence level with your last posting, there are black jews you retard. You can go get your little greek books and act like you are smart by posting quotes from Aristotle, but we all know better. Furthermore, stop trying to post things about me to fool people into thinking you know who I really am, my name is Lawrence Jacobson, I don't do shit for a living, I don't work at an internet company, and you can reach me by clicking on my name. I am someone that didn't want to invest in UBO, how is that? You are the one that posted originally about me for no reason, probably because your brother wouldn't fuck you, or probably because your dog wouldn't lick your period you bitch. |
And one more thing, Lisa. Email me and I will give you my address, and then I can get you fired. hahaha |
Lawrence Jacobson, My man said he's gonna find you and ask you to say all of this in person. |
Satan, as I stated. Anyone that wants to meet me face to face, needs to email me. |
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