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Hova Slides Over to 360 in the Rover.
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360hiphop and Roc-a-Fella have done a deal that has Roc-A-Fella leaving Peeps-Republic anemic low-tech website for 360hiphop's anemic high-tech website. 360hiphop will develop the Roc-A-Fella site featuring the same things you can find at every other site. Where is DME in this deal? One has to ask, what happened to the ties that bind? Brother, can you spare a dime?
It's an excellent deal that will bring more people to 360hiphop to enjoy empty chat rooms and anemic bulletin boards. It will leverage all those people posting at Roc-A-Fella's Peeps Republic website and bring them into the 360hiphop fold. They plan on offering contests, message boards and cartoons. They are also going to show short films, probably in the same vein as "The Streets are Watching", although hopefully not that one that's circulating around Fulton St. It's a strong play as far as e-commerce is concerned because Roc-A-Wear is hot. The only problem is, 360hiphop has no store.
Ironically, 360hiphop's moves are eerily looking like OkayPlayer's (http://www.okayplayer.com) business model, just with a higher burn rate, and less stickiness. Perhaps acquiring OkayPlayer and several other major Hip Hop Dynasty's will help cement their direction as a HipHop-esque Artist Direct. Unfortunately Artist Direct has launched UrbanDirect, which is a lot less expensive to maintain [than 360hiphop], and has seemingly gathered more traffic in it's message bases for some artists than some of Artist Direct's alternative and pop artists.
Time for some free Morgan Spiced Rum at UW while we check out the trophies.
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you know DARIEN is gettina a cut somehow in this deal along with that fine thang STACEY DASH... |
What is up with DME? I noticed a new page on www.placesofcolor.com. Are they still doing the deal with AOL. |
Russell Simmons is a big 'ole pimp. He has such a vast conglomerate, it's hard to keep track of. I hate going to 360HipHop.com because when you turn off the sound on the page, as soon as you go to another page the sound comes back on again.
And of course the music is all that Def Jam zhigge-style rap & bullshit.
What I don't get is why Jigga Jay Z and Roc-A-Fella were with Peeps in the 1st place? Shouldn't they stay true to their brand?
Y'all have fun at that Baby Phat party.
Hopefully there'll be all kinds of male MCs and female journalists there, and it will turn into one big orgy!
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This could be s mart move. While 360hiphop may have stumbled out of the gate, Roc-a-fella goes from having no web clout to bein featured on a site that everyone logs on to just to see what the Titanic looks like. They will give a first class seat on 360 and enjoy a plendid cruise until the Morgan Spcied ocean gets a little icy and ship begins to sink. Hard to believe but 360 will still be burning cash in the cold ocean to stay afloat. |
This is another example of people with too much cash and too little concern for their consumers teamimg up to ignore and exploit us some more.
I haven't visited 360 hiphop in a while. There is no real reason to. web portals are a form of entertainment and disseminators of information. I truly believe that the challenge that faces all web portals lies in making thier portal as important to the viewer/visitor as the television currently is. What reason do vast numbers of people have visit any of these portals? The answers vary greatly and are unclear at best, and are nonexistent at worst.
Yes, web plays have what seems like enormous burn rates to the layman, with little or no steady income coming in. Advertisers would be a major source of monthly income, but advertisers realise that the web is unproven and non-performing. We will see a successful, long lasting web portal when the principals of said portal recognize that my time is important, I have a finite amount of time each day. Make it important for me to visit you. Television has become a leisure activity of choice for many Americans...the ball is in your court web masters.
Peace and Blessings...
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..i guess i missed the babyPhat party..gotta increase my clout.. |
This deal w/360 & Roc-A-fella, really doesn't mark too much. I can see where it is going, and if it can work more power to it.
Let's encourage DME to concentrate on their focused plan.
They have never been a Peeps.
Is Peeps still alive and kicking....Itt reminds me of one of those old school R&B niggas that should've stopped while at least the ladies were once feeling'em. Is their anyone really feeling any of the following?
360HIPHOP.COM
PEEPS.COM
Let me know I'm curious?
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is stacey dash the piece of ass from clueless? is she related to damon? |
Anybody ever really read the e-newsletter from Platform.NET?
First of all... what's up with their openning line?
"PLATFORM.NET you know how we do in da hood!"
Another of my favorite lines from the newsletter:
"WIN FREE BOOTY ONLINE"
ni***s please.
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Is there no peace in the Dash family? |
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stacy dash from CLUELESS and MO MONEY is a cousin of the DASH's |
Everyone, go put on some old EPMD, or ICE-T (Colors, New Jack Hustler), or Old Big Daddy KANE, and then try to tell me that Hip-Hop does not suck elephant dick right now. Enough with the megaphone guy in the background, enough with Missy, enough of Rodney "the wonder=kid genius", enough with weak ass R&B groups, enough Lil Wayne,Kim,Cease, and any other Lil out there. Who is original? DMX, Jay-Z, and that's pretty much it. Rock is on a comeback, and will overtake hip hop quickly. It is a sad group of talent. |
what is 360 gonna do now? so what if Jigga signed w/them; how are they going to use this to their advantage? and how the fuck do they still have "coming soon" type shit on their site, how long does it take to create a decent storefront and interactive community hub?? it looks like urbandirect, which just like artistdirect will continually grow virtually undetected w/a fraction of the access to content as any of these so called urban portals.... |
HUGH: DMX is "original"?
Man...you niggaz in the states (and white boys in the suburbs) have absolutly NO TASTE.
You don't say "hip hop culture" in every day language too do you?
tell me it aint so.
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No, Stacey is Darien's Sister, Damon and Bobby's cousin. |
Miranda Jane and Fart For Short:
The black woman has always used that 'white feminist bullshit' to allow outsiders to divide the black community. The black woman knows that whites will always elevate them while putting us black men down. The black woman, especially in this "urban" bullshit, continues to go with the flow and refuse to support the black man. Miranda Jane and Fart for short are two prime examples of gutter trash hoes who exploit this and try to conceal their personal attacks, and hate for the black man, under a variety of guises, including "I'm trying to make you laugh with my list that insults you black men,' or "I'm a feminist." |
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like is said STACEY is the dash's cousin.... reading is fundemental... |
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Oxygen Media, has lost its top Web editor. The departure of editor in chief Sarah Bartlett—who left to consult and spend more time with her family—comes several weeks after Oxygen closed two of its Web sites, Picky.com and WomensHands.com, and follows a string of defections by executive producers at Oxygen. |
Have any of you seen the latest issue of Silicon Alley Reporter (issue 35) with David Ellington, Selwyn Hinds and Omar Wasow on the cover? |
afFICKLEd:
if dmx is not original than who do you feel he has he patterned himself after?
or, do you even listen to dmx?
for someone who does not like hiphop, you sure do spend an aweful lot of time slamming it, the artists and americans that listen to it.
i do not like country music. so i do not listen to it. and because i do not listen to it there ain't much i can say about it other than i don't like it.
(again, i know that you will try to assult me verbally based on my observation of you... again i say in advance.. what-ever-man) |
DMcKenzie:
I saw it on the stands... does the article make the mag worth purchasing? Whattheheck is it about anyway? I usually get The Silicon Alley Reporter Daily in my email so I rarely buy the mag.
Enlighten us.
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Peace.
Forget 360HipHop.com. Forget Oxygen.
Have I got a hot new URL for all of you tastemakers...
http://www.hiphopslapnutz.com
Hip Hop Slap Nutz bills itself as "The Only Hip Hop Site That Matters".
Their content consists of a Souls of Mischief interview.
I hope you all enjoy your trip to this fabulous urban URL - tasty!
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p.s. What spices are in Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum?
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BTW, thuglite, just was is your obession to seem like an insider? Yes, Stacey is Damon and Bobby's cousin, but not Darrien's because she's his sister. IS Darrien not one of the Dashes? Next time make your explantation more clear, because your little tidbit made she was a cousin of all the Dashes mentioned in this story.
You know, whatever you do know (and it seems like the outlines of rumor but very little fact), is not enough to be the UE authority on all the inside information. So far all the things you've claimed to be trying to expose is nothing new in the space.
The Oxygen Media thing: old. The 360 thing: ancient, The David Watkins thing: I mean who hasn't heard anything about DW? You come off appearing to want to know it all but what do you really know? That we all haven't heard a million times before that is?
maybe you can answer the question on what's up with that?
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tanya gregory, i didnt they are the brothers DAMON and BOBBY the cousins are DARIEN and STACEY... i guess u couldnt figure that out huh??? lets take it back to third grade for you then... therefore they are all DASHes... two brothers and two cousins equals four DASHES.... as far ar your jibberism .... whatever... dont hate the player ...hate the game.. |
Well, let's take it to the kindergarden for you, because your post was absolutely impossible to interpret for any one who has a third grade education or above.
QUIT THE CHILDISH BS!, In your original post you were vague at best, I broke it down a little further for the poster and then your little ego felt threatened as Chief gossip and Head person of in charge of knowing half the story and then you start beefing.
When I see a player, I appreciate the game, However, your just empty boasts. what happened to the big expose's you've been promising? playa? |
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Anybody ever really read the e-newsletter from Platform.NET?
First of all... what's up with their openning line?
"PLATFORM.NET you know how we do in da hood!"
Another of my favorite lines from the newsletter:
"WIN FREE BOOTY ONLINE"
ni***s please.
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i thought the exact same thing when i saw the newsletter today. that shit is actually disrespectful to ALL people. even worse that it's coming from some cracka ass ruling class oppressors that are 'slumming' doing some hip hop shit. losers.
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B-KOOL: Listen "B", its not really that complicated.
See, you're just touchy cuz you happen to be one of those people who refers to themselves as a "true hip hop head" who probably cried when TUPAC died..while I am someone who looks far down my nose at such types.
You're an part of an odd set.
Constantly searching for something to identify with since its quite obvious that you've got the personality of a lemming and just about the same level of originality.
Look at you there.
All mad and defensive because some stranger named 'AFFLICTED' who lives miles from of 'NEW YAWK' or the "WEST COAST YO' , wrote something seemingly offensive about one of your shallow little heroes.
Is that normal?
I mean really...Just because i think you're a moron, and just because i think HIP HOP is a crass exhibition of noise that capitalizes on the most grotesque of stereotypes.... is that any reason to get your panties soaked with urine?
furthermore, even if my opinion on hip hop happens to be a little more informed that your opinion on country music, what difference does it make?
Who the fuck are you? HIP HOP DEFENDER MAN?
thats so fucking corny.
But then, you probably derive some sort of satisfaction being an online "soldier" of the 'hardcore'.
Always 'IDENTIFYING' and 'FIGHTING' the 'powers' that dare to criticise the one thing that gives your cultureless american nigger-ass something to point to as self-proof that you are something more than a common turd with bad taste in music.
HELL...man...what the "PHUCK" do i know?
I live in jamaica after all; a place where hip hop 'artists' are regularly rewarded for their musical offerings with half empty bottles of red stripe aimed right at their big heads.
So why worry about my opinion...?
As i see it, you're wasting valuable time on me when you could be off somewhere with your "peeps" , smoking blunts (hahahahaha) and talking about how that loser on B.E.T is so "whack" while you are so "underground.'
Fack aff.....you whiny little pussyhole.
afFLicted
ps.try not to worry so much about my web site..i know it doesn't have enough HIP HOP stuff to keep people like you interested...so I've decided to add a virtual brick wall that you can spray paint "burners" on as well as a pair of java turntables (technics 1200s of course) which so you can 'SCRATCH'.
Is that 'jiggy' or what?
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I feel like buying all of you. I can do that, you know.
I was planning on buying 360hiphop but I took a close look at it. Nice colors. They have a lot of stuff on there too.
Then that whole DME thing... there stock costs less than a pack of cigarettes.
UBO... well... nevermind. Why should I try to figure it out if they can't.
AKA... I don't like Steve Rifkind. Even I'm not as racist as he is.
PLATFORM... i'm sure what they do. i hate that stupid popup jukebox bullshit they have.
HOOKT.COM... Brett Wright should go back to the music business and hang out with Tyresse again...
As far as I'm concerned, this whole urban thing better make money soon or else I'm going to get bored.
Peace Out.
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YO!
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Why is having the best credentialed site seemingly more important than having a site that has the most content? What about having a site that truly impacts the lives of it's visitors through interactivity?
Remember-if you give people will take but if you offer to take people will give. People like to feel like they are a part of something bigger than themselves. Black Planet seems to be the only site to capitalize upon this easy concept that is "urban". Napster also. Give
netizens an "urban" site that they can contribute to as well as shop from and YOU WILL WIN.
Anyway that's just one man's opinion and I just bought my computer.
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afFiCKLEd:
i usually would not even entertain your third-world foul mouthed ass but since you were way off on your diatribe about who you think that i (read every american blackman who at all likes hiphop) am, i thought i would clue you in on a few things.
my main point about you (aside from the fact that your website reeks) is that you are a hipocrite.
on one hand you front like you are some kind of 'urban' journalist writing articles on hiphop artists and submitting them to BLAZE magazine and getting mad when they don't publish your porno-ass bull shit excuse for an article. then on the other, you take every chance you get to stab at us american black men, anyone who likes hiphop, and the slim shadies (read caucasian listeners of hiphop) of the world. that... my fickle jamaican brother, is hypocrisy to the fullest degree.
and you know it is true... that is why you got so mad about my last post. (you sissy)
and for the record...
i like a lot of different kinds of music, of which hiphop is one. but jazz (another part of american black culture) is by far my favorite.
my life is full of black american culture, of which hiphop has its place... so does family reunions, soul food, motown at its best, my frat, my church, my family's forty acres and a mule (yes, we actually got ours and still own the land), harlem, dc, chi-town, the barber shop, the corner, and many other things...
though i had a summer intern at the corcoran while i was in college and can paint, draw my ass off (on paper or on the computer), i never 'burned' my 'tag' on public property -- though i do appreciate the art (sometimes) in what others have done in spray paint on brick walls and subway trains.
though i ruined a lot of records back in middle school, i have not scratched on a record for over a decade. by the way it has also been that long since i have worn parachute pants, danced on cardboard, popped, locked, and spun on my head. its also been that long since i regularly watched bet... and you can keep your red-stripe beer - its nasty.
i dont' smoke (anymore, and in case i ever run for president --- i never inhaled), i never refer to myself as a hiphophead, or underground. Even though "I ain't mad at ya'" I never really liked Tupac, i was more a bee eye gee fan (biggie smalls is the illest). i'm not flashy, or jiggy. i don't wear ice or floss, etc.. etc.. etc...
you accuse me of being mad and defensive, yet you are the one who is looking in your funk and wagnall’s to find different ways in which to throw insults at me (and my "cultureless american nigger-ass" kindred). you are the one, who by each time you type on your keyboard to diss hiphop and american negroes, prove that for someone who hates them, you spend an awful lot of time studying (read jocking) the music and the people who listen to it.
no, i am not 'hiphop defender man'. i am just the one who pulled your fake-ass, hypocritical, hiphop and american negro jockin', bandwidth (read cock size) deficient, whack web site havin', racist, jamaica-superior complex havin', bitch card. you are a hypocritical punk who loves to start shit on this site when you need to confine your pathetic 'almost died in london, saved by a white man, broke ass' to jah-make-ya.com or your own bullshit website.
in short, you stink. |
ps... anon is my frat brother and let me use his laptop to respond to your tired self, so don't get it twisted....
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what is original is an artist like John Forte, that writes his own meaningful, artistic lyrics, produces most of the beats on his album and performs also, AND has skills in all three areas.
What the fuck is DMX talking about anyway? The same thing Jay-Z is talking about. How juvenille is it to be in your late 20's or early 30's still talkin about fuckin hoes driving a Hummer, Land Rover, or Benz, and bustin a cap in any mf that breaks your personal code of ethics, all while bein the dopest MC on the streets. When the first artist that did that released an album (Ice-T) it was original, after that it is a copy.
DMX, Jay-Z and all these other MC's in that genre appear to be the same rapper wearing different costumes. Rocca-wear (ugly and wack) for Jay-z and Ruff-gear (or whatever the fuck they call that hideous shit) for DMX.
Note to DMX: a prayer and a conversation with the devil on every album? Who are you praying to? Whose side are you on? You talk about mysogeny, extortion, murder, theft, and drug trafficing on your album (all deeds implored by the devil) and not much of what God would want you to do, yet you pray to someone. WHO? What is your message man? If it is that life is hard and it is hard to be good, I know that. We all know that. We rely (no want) you to tell us something we dont know. Tell us about some crazy shit that we would never say out loud but secretly think about like Biggie did. Tell us about some shit we heard was goin gon in California bu thad yet to confirm, like NWA did. Dazzle us with your poetic verses, verbal skills and rhyme patterns like Tupac did. Even make us laugh and cheer you at the same time with your over the top aggression and presense like Busta Rhymes did.
We buy you though so we are as much to blame as you are. If we had not bought your albums you will be Earl Simmons again by now. So for that I take partial blame. Jay-Z you are not exempt. You are just as wack as DMX. Props to you though for putting UGK on the Big Pimpin' track. (And by the way that was a slammin' beat) UGK has skills. For those of you who have slept, get UGK and find out a little about the dirty south before Master P and Cash Money made us into "bling-bling Toon".
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B-COOL: you're upset aren't you?
I can't believe you just wrote out that bible-length explanation but i'll tell you this much..it sho' was funny.
all that stuff bout "...family reunions, soul food, motown at its best, my frat, my church, my family's forty acres and a mule (yes, we actually got ours and still own the land), harlem, dc, chi-town, the barber shop, the corner, and many other things... "
what's that shit all about.
You're such a brain-dirtied parody of yourself that you can't even tell the difference between someone who's pulling your leg and someone who would actually have the interest to take a sensitive knees ballerina such as yourself to task on so-called "black american culture."
Look at this shit you wrote here: "....though i had a summer intern at the corcoran while i was in college and can paint, draw my ass off... "
SO?? why are you telling me this?Do you really think anyone cares if you can in fact " DRAW YOUR ASS OFF"?
hahahahahahahahaha
just tell me one thing...HOW OLD ARE YOU???
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Maximillian: try telling B-COOL that...he'll start yapping on about SOUL FOOD and his maya angelou poetry collection. |
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one last dream hampton thing...
she still saying tupac is alive? 2pac was good and all , but she was kinda playing herself telling everyone he was alive.....
i think she got to appear on television because of it.
some people will do anything to be a star. thank goodness she invented writing in the "girl from the streets" style because we all know how hard a life in the ghetto dream rose up from to achieve great things like surviving heavy d farting under the covers while they are were in bed.
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ALL THIS TALK about flaky dot com's has been getting in the way of an issue that i think all black people should be paying a little more attention to (since it is clear that this site has many black visitors): CAMERON DIAZ.
why isn't cameron diaz showing up in these discourses?
Why are we ignoring this beautiful nubian empress when it is clear that she has done so much for the so called ONLINE BLACK MEDIA?
all the complaining is fine..but when we ignore CAMERON DIAZ ...one begins to wonder if the REAL MESSAGE BEHIND THIS SITE is making any impact at ALL.
YOU FUCKIN INGRATES.
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Yall are some touchy ass fools and dont realize that the youth buying into this culture are so dumb and cluless they can barely pass high school. And the intelligent kats are all laughing their asses off and they are NOT making music for the suckers but for themselves. now can all of you use some of that intelligence to fix things instead of complaining. peace |
REGEND: ...they aint got no book learnin' |
whats with russell simmons skin...its looks like he was left in the oven too long and now hes even more spotty and discoloured than the staff at VIBE.
anyone care to speculate? |
I would like to thank each and everyone of you on this site for giving me glory and turning your back on God. You are making me so happy by attacking each other, by using your writing to make so many millions of youth turn their backs on God, by promoting a culture that leads to death, by not praying and thanking God for every meal and your home, and by sinning every day and not begging God for forgiveness. You have failed at everything in this life without God, and if you were smart, you would get on your knees and pray to God to help you out. But you don't, and you serve me The Devil, and I thank you so much because I hate you and now have the power to make your lives a living Hell. Most of you have been going steady with me for most of your lives. We will be together twice: in this life and in Hell, when I finally have you burning in the flames reserved for those who do not worship God. And I want to have you twice not because I love you, because I don't. It's because having you serve me and turn your back on God on this earth, and then having you burning in Hell will make God twice as sad. So to all my followers, keep up the great work. And if you love me, as you've shown you do, you'll keep this letter between us. |
By the way, I think DMX and Jay Z and all of the other rappers are doing such a great job. Theire descriptions of evil are so seductive, they lead so many other youthful souls to me. I now have the power to destroy them as well. We will all be in Hell together. And soon, each and everyone of you will be asleep at night, and wake up and see someone sitting in your chair in the dark, or standing over your bed. You'll think you're seeing things, or that your imagination is making you view a pile of clothes as a person. But then you'll see that it's not a pile of clothes.
Someone is in your room with you. Adn you'll understand that God and me, the Devil, are real. And when you finally see one of the demons that I have posted on this world, which is mine since I got kicked out of Heaven, you will know that there is life after death, and a Hell waiting for each and everyone of you. And that's when you'll call on God: when my demons are in your room at night. So DMX and Jay Z and Lil' Kim: keep up the great work. I will come for you just as I came for Tupac and Biggie, who died without knowing Jesus Christ, and now down here with me looking up at the earth and wishing they could have changed their lives and accepted God as their savior. But none of you do a thing. Keep doing what you're doing because I have a lot of room down here for those who were raised in church, then grew up to lead people away from it. I love you all for the good work you're doing in my name. |
Satan has spoken. I wonder if DMX or Jay-Z would care to respond...
Peace and Blessings... |
I don't wish to exclude other purveyors of a false culture such as West Side Connection, Cash Money Clique, No Limit Soldiers, etc....
These people have really distorted the truth for the purpose of their own benefit. A clear 2% of the population promotes to the other 98% what they think that population will buy.
...I dont really have to the space or the time to explain myself here but it is wrong what is being done in music. We must counter with a strategy to end it.
Peace and Blessings... |
By the Way...to the gentleman that said DMX was original. What about DMX is original? I cant see it. Maybe you could help me?
Peace and Blessings... |
Before we start making judgements on the young fans, rappers, or industry folk, let's look at ourselves... I'm assuming that most of us posting here are in our late 20's and early 30's.
Remember the days of Big Daddy Kane and "Pimpin' Aint Easy", Slick Rick "Treat Her Like A Prostitute", Kool G Rap "On The Run".... don't forget! We were all blasting this shit and memorizing the lyrics and trying to be what they told us to be.
We had Public Enemy, Xclan, and Rakim trying to show us different perspective of Hip-Hop culture... but we got bored. Why? Because the party ain't fun without Bitches, Champagne, and Weed. That's the reality.
Don't blame anybody but ourselves... we built this shit.
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tanya gregory ... when the icon thread is put up... QUERY OF A ICON... u can get it then.... |
I don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but the lead story on The Media Channel (www.mediachannel.org) is "The New Black CNN," a dialogue on new urban media, including comments from "Crispus" of Urban Expose.
One thing that makes it harder for me to make blanket pronouncements about the state of hip hop--as much as I feel it has gotten less interesting and political-- is that I'm old. I'm 31. I started listening to hip hop when I was six. I mean, I am "out of the demo" as they say in the programming business. The folks who make records really don't care what I want to listen to.
That said, I think there is (hope there is, pray there is) a market out there for more hip hop which is more intelligent than some of the stuff on the charts. There's a mix but it's skewed. The racial dynamics of hip hop today make things at the very least more surreal. Remember when hip hop shows were "black," small, self-important and the door was always nervous?
To see overflow stadium crowds of grining white kids doing a call-and-response with a black MC about gettin' fucked up just makes my eyes pop out of my head. I started saying that hip hop would go white years ago but now the train is in the station I can't stop staring. |
Aww shit, I didn't think it was possible but I just visited 360hiphop and it is actually worse than UBO. They got windows popping up and disappearing and shitty navigation all over.
Who do they have writing their code? I mean c'mon these companies have sites that look like somebody was sitting there and tried to do some shit he thought was cool and it just didn't work out right... but he still uploaded the pages anyway.
But the again, Russel hasn't been involved in something that was worthwhile in a decade.
"I didn't think it was physically possible... but this both sucks and blows." -- Bart Simpson
Shalom'alaikum!
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Speaking of how wack Jay Z is has anyone noticed that on Do It Again he said somethin' about a chick and how he was 'diggin' her out' then 'kickin' her out' in the span of like 5 minutes??? How is some jiggy pimpin rapper gonna admit in public on a song that he only lasts 5 minutes and nobody pull his card on it???? Also, what should we expect from Jay? After all he started as a disciple of the biggest myth making pimp daddy of 'em all... Malachi Z York!
Anyway, as for Def Jam's wondertwins DMX and JA RULE, Freddie Foxxx dealt with 'em both quite nicely on a joint he did with Mykill Myers but if you really want a punch in the gut... listen to that old Mic Geronimo cut Time To Build... it features EARLY representations from both X and JA in all their clumsily rhymed wanna be Onyx glory. How did these brothas get signed????
As for Hip-Hop's current state, no WE did not make it this way. WE did not buy DMX records. WE did not buy Master P records. Hip-Hop is more than what's on the radio and video. Dilated Peoples, Jurassic 5, De La Soul and many other deeper underground cats are still making records that are REAL Hip-Hop. You want Hip-Hop to remain dope? GO BUY THE SHIT! And for chrissake... the biggest pop sensation is ( even if most of yall refuse to admit it ) EMINEM who is one of the dopest wordsmiths and lyricists ( even if he is a Bugs Bunny cartoon come to life ) that has ever graced a mic. Do the pop kids realize this? No, but true Hip-Hop heads should.
I guess that is the point. When we rely on Russell Simmons ( a crackhead who stole his company from Rick Rubin and Jazzy J ), George Jackson -- RIP ( a corny director whose highlights are pretty much limited to New Jack City ) and their corporate sponsor's to tell us what urban culture and Hip-Hop are about then obviously there is a problem.
My suggestion, fuck the free beta versions of software these companies are getting... quit yer job... boost some warez ( if you're an internet professional and you don't know how to crack an app the you're soft duke )... register you a domain name and start your own shit.
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aFUCKtuPed:
argueing with you on this board that black americans do have a rich culture and hiphop is a valuable genre and a sub-set of our dynamic heritage is an effort in futility. you are clearly a deranged anti-blackamerican, anti-hiphop, racist person whose mind is made up. you wanna keep dissin' me (and the rest of black american hiphop enthusiasts) feel free to send me an email at c_francis_xavier@yahoo.com so we can spare everyone else the drama.
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Its funny someone should bring up John Forte being original-- so original he couldnt escape the stereotype of black men and drugs and is now looking at a looong stretch in prison for cocaine trafficking. What's so original about that? |
John Forte, the original prep school rapper? Who got his big break by being Lauryn Hill's boyfriend for a brief moment in time??? What happened? He got arrested? When? |
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he got arrested before the weekend. doing the low shit too. getting two girls to pick up his drugs. why risk these girls future , manipulating them because they are infauated with you. do your dirt by your lonely.
or at least pound them out properly so that they don't tell on you.
those girls did the right thing by telling on john forte. bringing in cocoaine to make money , because he record sales were so meager...
trying to flip a few G's because he couldn' sell cd's |
Thank you, thank you, thank you for calling out Jay Z. Yes, 5 minutes of sex is nothing to brag about. He is the impotent rapper.
And yes, it is far worse to have Knowledge of Self then forsake it for misogyny and materialism, than to never have had it at all. Jay Z is guilty, Nas is guilty, Nore and Capone are guilty, among many others. Good call.
I was surprised to hear about John Forte smuggling kilos (or rather, having his "hoes" smuggle his kilos). He doesn't seem like the type...
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Daily Hip-Hop News: (from sohh.com)
John Forte Arrested, Faces Life Sentence
Friday - August 4, 2000
According to Hookt.Com, Fugees affiliate, John Forte was arrested on July
13th and charged with conspiring to distribute fourteen kilos of cocaine.
Prosecutors taped conversations during which Forte refers to the cocaine as
“ice cream” and agrees to pick-up two women (Marisa Laken, 20, and Angela
Gregg, 20) with drug-filled suitcases from Newark Airport in New Jersey. This
prompted DEA agents to arrest Forte.
The judge set the bail at $625,000 which Forte paid with the help of Carly Simon
(who he once sang back-up for) and his business manager. He's currently under
house arrest at his mother’s home in New Brunswick, New Jersey.
Laken, Gregg & Forte are all facing life sentences in a federal prison if found
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Great. Now we have "urban music" sites biting newsbriefs off of each other. News Editor of a hip hop site: what an easy fucking job. |
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thuglite, are you lol about the "singing backup" comment? |
not tryin to defend the state of hiphop today but...
if rapping about politics sold records, then you would see jiggah and x rappin about the republican convention or the possibility of having the first jewish vice president.
all of those kats you hear on the radio today are trying to do is make dough. they have an image to sell, which helps their bottom line. scantily clad big butt women shakin their asses in the video sells cds and fills shows. and it ain't just the little white kids out in the suburbs buying it either.
as for pig pimpin jay-z's five minutes of fun. a real pimp don't love them hoes so bangin 'em for even less than five minutes is not a problem. a real ho is only in it for the money anyway, she appreciates a quicky, cause that enables her to go back to the club to rob another self-proclaimed baller of his papers. |
Jay Z is a moon faced moron who would get his sneakers taken in the joint. He relies on the reps of his shady managers, and is getting over with his little tough guy image. And what's with stabbing Un with his little toenail clipper? That's some fag shit right there. Any cop would tell you that. But what will happen when tuff guy Jay doesn't do what his tough guy managers tell him to do? Jay is a str8 bitch who might to whip out his little toenail clipper again. |
DMX is an old prune face asshole who made his money off of sounding and trying to be the next Tupac. All that shit he talks about being in the joint is nothing to brag on. All that means is he was an idiot as a bad guy, one of the stupid motherfuckers who got caught cause he got no smarts. So fuck DMX too. Ja Rule is cool because he doesn't seem to be taking this Rusell simmons/kevin Liles shit seriously. Ja knows these two and Def Jam are a bunch of assholes, and he's just going along for the ride, smiling alot and trying to make friends. But DMX is a faggy little singing on his tracks but trying to say he's tough wannabe street hood. He's a fucking wannabe. |
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REGISTER to VOTE
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B-KOOL: what are you anyway?one of those rabidly loyal consumer?
so strange. let it go..it sucks!
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afflicted:
i like hiphop mostly for the beats -- even though they are often jacked from other music. i'll also admit that the words often are not that good, but the tracks are all that.
as for me being a loyal consumer... i get my tunes the same way i get my cable, my videos, and my software -bootleg!!!!!!! why buy it in the store for close to 20 bills when i can get it on the corner for less than 5? why buy software for hundreds when you can get it from mentallo or other warez sites por nada?
don't forget to register to vote... www.beavoter.com (not you afflicted cuz you ain't a us citizen) ?como se dice "register to vote" en espanol? |
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B COOL is jacking for BOOTLEG beats........... |
thuglite:
sowhatchew saying?
true - i pay for nothing i don't have to... go napster!!! go free warez!!! and go hookup man on the corner 5th and 45th. where else can you get the latest movies and cd's before they are released to the public -- and at a discount to boot!?
i am an advocate for anything gotten on the dolo.
err, didn't i tell you to register to vote? www.beavoter.org
ps. i am not "jacking" for anything - you punk. r.i.f. - i said that hiphop beats are often jacked from other songs... i also said that i acquire bootleg versions of various forms of entertainment... i did not say i was jacking for bootled beats... reading is fundamental.
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I gotta agree about the software. Mos' definitely warez and cracking appz should be any computer owners top priority. These progz are not worth no $400 no way no how. However, when it comes to music I prefer to buy my tapes and c.d's from mom-n-pop specialty record stores. Tapes run $10 and c.d's run $10-15, not bad, and yer supporting a non-corporate business to boot. |
Interesting sorry about Roc-A-Fella and 360hiphop. But, if one were to believe BACKSTAGE, the Hard Knock Life Tour film that premiered at Urbanworld 2000, mogul wannabe Damon Dash is discontent with operating in Russell Simmons'/Def Jam's shadow. |
Urbanworld's Stacy Spikes doesn't seem to have a problem with operating in Simmons' shadow. The word on the vine is that Spikes dropped a handsome sum to woo Russell to align himself with the festival. Didn't Spikes learn the age old lesson in childhood that you can't buy friends? If not, there's no time like the present to teach the proverbial old dog a new trick. |
B-KOOL: oooo..you steal software from WAREZ...how "underground"
stop emailing me now tho' okay? |
Peter Dean Rickards and Ainsley Weir are both afflicted with Aids. For all the bitch shit they talk about American blacks and our hiphop culture, these two pansies sure use a lot of hiphop slang on their garbage can Jamaicans-on-welfare site. You Jamaicans need to get the dick out your ass and realize that hiphop is reality. It's also making more money than you filthy haired religious posers who need to ride hiphop's dick and throw hiphop beats into your genre of music that has been stale as shit since Bob Marley died 19 years ago. So keep wearing your old shitty hand me down clothes and trying to pose like American rappers in the photos on your shit ass site and stay riding our American hiphop dick, you bottyfaced bumbaclod faggots! |
Afflicted you are a bitch to your heart and since your photo is on your site, the people you been dissing know how you look, you pagan pot smoking asshole. I shit on you, your unwashed whore of a mother, your squad, and everything you represent. And you're such a bitch, all you can do is stay on your shitty underdeveloped little hovel of an island, and front like you're big man on a message board, but spend most of your time chasing after wrinkled old white bitches that white people don't even want (the tourists your shitty shack filled island depends on and plays Stepin Fetchit for). So fuck you and stop making the decent Jamaicans look bad. |
Afflicted, tho I agree with some of what you said, your presentation sucks, so you had to get dissed by THE MASTER you piece of shit. You raise valid points but need to stick that highbrow tone where the sun don't shine. |
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S.O.H.H. are the worst pieces of dogshit the world has ever seen. These fat overfed geek wannabes put up a story saying Suge was charged with murder, and he wasn't so these cow ass dickweeds (Steven Samuels and Felicia Fattie) put up another story with an 'official' tone saying that the earlier story they posted was incorrect. Steven Erkel Samuels is a fat bitch and so is Felicia (whio suffers from gas problems and farts while crossing our crowded office). Steven spends all day chasing after Fattie Fartface, saying, "yes, boss," and making sure she has enough Ring Dings to suck down. These fat fuckheads are running a hiphop site? They can't even manage to keep the fat lard from their ass regions and beer guts. How the fuck are these weeble wobble motherfuckers gonna bring anything but rumors they heard and stories they found on other sites? Steven and Felicia Fattie get the dick and balls. |
Of the two of them, Felicia is the man in the relationship. She has a Burt Reynolds mustache, while Steven Samuels, aka "Felix Unger of rap," wears an apron. |
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Id like the give he middlefinger to all those heads who wouldnt move from in front of the club, and get on line-causing the cops to close the doors, and not let anyone else in the De La Soul Party last night.....
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Everyone, I am back from Florida..almost beat up a girl for putting her hands on me for no reason (but I didn't). I didn't get tan, you know how we get all red and shit. Anyway I just wanted to say that it is fucked up that John Forte got busted...I wonder if the Carly Simon benefit going on tonight is for his legal fund, being as though she is his business manager hahaha..He should have never left his a&r job at Rawkus. Then again, he sucked as an artists, so his ears were probably the same..
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true - i pay for nothing i don't have to... go napster!!! go free warez!!! and go hookup man on the corner 5th and 45th. where else can you get the latest movies and cd's before they are released to the public -- and at a discount to boot!?
i am an advocate for anything gotten on the dolo.
so who is getting paid when you do this B COOL , the artists arent... and you are not helping the cause.. |
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ohsokool .... next time u'd get to the party earlier... you know how hip hop parties are.. i got an extra de la soul gift bag if you want it.... |
It's funny to see people criticize DMX for bragging about criminality, yet
"internet professional" brag about pilfering software. |
Not saying i haven't liberated a few apps in my day, just saying it's kind of funny. |
Ron,
It's Darien Dash's internet company, Digital Mafia. |
Which is a fairly ridiculous name for an ISP, if you think about it.
I'm not one for the low-ball insults and such, but Shitty B's stuff had mad venom. Can afflicted match this new standard?
Dr. Doom---Yeah, I thought that was ironic as well. How about the cat that spent half his post shitting on DMX for his contradictions and lack of original content ("fucking hoes and driving Mercedes" or words to that effect), then turned around and praised UGK of "Big Pimpin'/Spendin' Cheese/Sittin' on BLADs" fame.
Bizzare. |
Who can doubt the endless list of additions that UGK have made to the culture? "Sippin' on some sissurp/Sip/Sip/Sippin' on some sissurp."
Indeed. |
Who can doubt the endless list of additions that UGK have made to the culture? "Sippin' on some sissurp/Sip/Sip/Sippin' on some sissurp."
Indeed. |
thuglite -
i know that i am wrong about getting music on the low and i have taken the comment about getting cds from a mom and pop shop to heart. i started copping music off of the street in retaliation to the rage i feel whenever i go into a music store operated by the usual suspects. that said, i will still get free music from napster and any other napster-like online music source. the artists still won't get paid for that, aye? so now what?
p.s. i am still gonna be a dolo advocate, but what cause specifically were you referring to?
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As a young black Computer Engineer, I see the same things happening on
the web that has happened in our music. The very sustinense of us will be
taken if we don't wise up and begin to run our buisnesses accordingly.
You don't see Disney execs giving beatdowns to Loonie Toon execs. I mean
let's be real this is the first place I have heard of so many black media CEO's
and it is dope! Just think, we invented this rap shit over 20 years ago but, we
are just starting to see prominence at the exec level like Dame Dash, Stoute ect. Isn't it
ill how long it has taken us to climb our own mountain? We used to promote, own the labels ect.
Eventually, what will happen is that some white dude, is going to see the profound potential
in one of our brothers or sisters (cause we are dope,extend funding, get real page development
then corner the market. You guys have a unique chance to big up on this scheme before
whites catch wind but will you? Back to the music biz, we can't even put out independent releases
with force because we need their distibution. That is cornering the market. P would have
been, that more richer. It is cool to voice the real but it would be even cooler if we had
all of these brothers giving us, more content and less "bogusness" |
Artists beefing with the consumers over Napster are pussy. You should be beefing with those white dudes that pimp you and won't give your
ass $1 off each copy. The only people getting hurt off this rap shit is us. These folk go home and sleep good at night from your tales of woe.
You would never let a brother shit on you. |
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UE:
can we get a new story...
everyone else:
did you register to vote like i told ya'
http://www.beavoter.org |
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SHITTY B: your name says it all...clearly, you're the worst kind of media victim: a low esteemed flake with NO CULTURE ..
your strange little angry rant is really bizarre though...i mean...suppose i happen to think people like you are cultureless and crude...how much more can you go to prove me right than writing :" ...I shit on you, your unwashed whore of a mother, your squad, and everything you represent. And you're such a bitch, all you can do is stay on your shitty underdeveloped little hovel of an island."
LOL...let me help you oput here a second you higher functioning ape...
See, you are the type of person who would actually stand there in the street (pointing a lot and ending all your sentences with "B" or "word") and getting all "TOUGH" if someone referred to your mother as a "wHORE."
That's all it would take to upset a moron like you.
As a matter of fact, i always came across such bettwetters when i was still in elementary school (elementary school kids love hip-hop too)...i would tell them I saw their mothers in a porno and they would get enraged and say stuff like :" Shes not!!! Shes never done a prono movie you fucking liar!!!"
..and i would laugh....why?
cuz they were too stupid to see the insult for what it was...a childish statement designed to upset a CHILD.
The sad thing about it in your case is that you are probably out of elementary school now (or at least dropped out) and you're still trying to apply what little skills you have in a place where adults congregate and inevitibaly, point and laugh as you stand there with your low voltage electrical short circuits that probably make your eye twitch a lot when you aren't releasing it from your body by typing such gems as :" .... It's also making more money than you filthy haired religious posers who need to ride hiphop's dick and throw hiphop beats into your genre of music that has been stale as shit since Bob Marley died 19 years ago."
hahahahahahahahaahaha...
So LISTEN B...why don't you do yourself a favour...turn off the idiot box for a whole day and SEE if you can string together something that doesn't make you look like such a CRUDE, CULTURELESS AMERICAN NIGGER who moves his hands around too much and has BAD TASTE IN MUSIC...
what you think?
Lemme know ..
afFLicted
ps. why you and B-Kool keep visiting my site...didn't i tell everyone here already that there's no JAY-Z MP3's there??!?! geeez...
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i visited you site to confirm that you are as wack as you sound on this b-board. mission accomplished. |
B-KOOL: i told you man..THERES NO HIP HOP MP3's THERE!!!!!
how can i win with you??!?!?!?
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Afflicted, it's real easy for you to be Big Man when you're overseas or on a message board. You can dis all you want but you'll still be nothing but an unknown wannabe trying to walk with the Big Boys. You are a small time Jamaican faggot who would get his teeth knocked out if we ever met. So fuck you and think up another of your faggy little replies for the board. But we all know you're a sucker, and that you will always be another wannabe. |
shitty B: good comeback..lol...tell me something...can you chew and think at the same time??
lemme know.. |
Ok, 360hiphop, ok a tad bit more content that oneworld thing he had going, but I'm just wondering. Gee there are mad talented folks out there who can hook it up on the web, so why aren't folks using em??? The music is bootsie too... |
fuk that coconut aFlicted and his ja-fakin hatin ways. that nigga prolly make a livin suckin tourist dick in montego bay. hip hop forver!!! |
Quick, someone tell me why Steven Samuels doesn't kick Adam Matthews' ass as soon as he shows his Triscuit (salty cracker) face in the office. He's posting like mad, pissed that he got shit-canned. Then the assfuck has the matzohs to clam that he's up in ops with the UBO "site editor." Lick my nuts, madame; you suck shit from Trugoy's asshole. |
Oooh, and I just noticed that Tupac posted. What's Hell like, Pac? Do you have to watch Poetic Justice over and over again? |
i love gilligan's island.
crack is GOOOOOOOOOOOD.
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Courtesy of Impact 247
Hooktstore.com Opens for Business
By Hersch Doby
Hookt.com's competitive advantage improved this week with the launch of its ecommerce site, Hooktstore.com.
With the Hooktstore, parent company Hookt—along with its not-yet-live sister site SlimShadyWorld.com—is now solidly in
play as an ecommerce leader in the urban space. They are second only to Platform.net, which already has its ecommerce
engine running.
Urban Box Office (UBO.net) also recently announced plans to add an ecommerce element to its sites (led by UV115.com,
sohh.com, hairweb.com) that will be relaunched this fall. Volume.com, which has yet to go live and recently laid off a
significant portion of staff, and Russell Simmon's 360hiphop.com have similarly pledged to offer online shopping. Neither
has delivered yet.
By launching first, Platform may have taken the bravest step first, but Brett Wright, Hookt's president of digital music,
cautions that launching doesn't mean all problems are solved. Wright says his group took its time with the store's launch in
order to work out details and insure that the system worked efficiently. Minor bugs still exist for Hooktstore, he says, and
issues of inventory control, fulfillment and undifferentiated product lines plague all online stores.
"Where do you want me to begin [explaining the challenges]?" says Wright, laughing. "It's been a long road and we're still
not finished."
Developing an infrastructure has proved to be the most difficult step, Wright says, adding that Hooktstore maintains its own
warehouse and handles buying, inventory and shipping internally.
Hookt added 22 new people to handle merchandise exclusively for Hooktstore.
For now, customers can purchase apparel from urban staples like Enyce, Phat Farm and Triple 5 Soul, but Wright says the
site will expand to offer CDs, DVDs and video games.
"We're working closely with urban designers. They're designing creative things and kids are demanding it," says Wright.
Hookt is working on perfecting its ecommerce system, and will be looking to provide partnership opportunities for other
dot.coms: "For those with distribution problems, we're a real business-to-business solution."
At first glance, Hooktstore takes its aesthetic lead from ecommerce sites pioneered by mainstream retailers like the Gap.
Wright says Hooktstore blends their structure with images and music that cater to urban tastes.
Impact247 gave Hooktstore a trial run, placing an order for Phat Farm gear. A very detailed and pleasant confirmation email
that included a delivery date was promptly returned and the package arrived on the appointed day.
To avoid snafus, customers can easily track their orders through the site's customer service links. If orders can't be filled
right away, the site maintains a 'wish list' for must-have items.
At the Urbanworld Film Festival last weekend, where executives from the urban dot.coms gathered for a panel on their
industry, Hooktstore gained the attention of many, including Platform's co-founder, Ben White.
White, who acknowledged Hooktstore for its impressive launch, says the store's opening has upped the ante for other sites.
"Everyone's going to be looking at them," he says. "The success will depend on their products and how different they will
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What is SlimShadyWorld.com going to be about, I wonder? Buy your own Eminem lyric sheet? Selling private-label Slim Shady blond hairdye?
Paul Allen just dropped some change in TheStreet.com's coffers, so some smart money cats still believe in content on the Web. Looking at the troubles that Salon, Slate and now Inside.com are having trying to raise revenue, I'd be working my ass off to tie in e-commerce all over my damn site. Magazines are chock full of pretty models pitching enyce or whatever--these muhfuckas could sell it directly and raise their cash that way. I pity fools like Selwyn et al when the axe starts dropping on their lazy asses. NBCi just dropped 20% of their staff--and them muhfuckas still got like $300 million in operating cash, not to talk of mad advertising weight with NBC. If stuff is looking tight for them, I don't understand how 360 thinks they'll survive with no store.
And cut out all the bullshit about short films! Took me mad long just see the promo for "The Art Of War" yesterday, and I'm on a T1. There's no way your average surfer will be coming to 360hiphop for the short films. Wake that ass up! |
What is SlimShadyWorld.com going to be about, I wonder? Buy your own Eminem lyric sheet? Selling private-label Slim Shady blond hairdye?
Paul Allen just dropped some change in TheStreet.com's coffers, so some smart money cats still believe in content on the Web. Looking at the troubles that Salon, Slate and now Inside.com are having trying to raise revenue, I'd be working my ass off to tie in e-commerce all over my damn site. Magazines are chock full of pretty models pitching enyce or whatever--these muhfuckas could sell it directly and raise their cash that way. I pity fools like Selwyn et al when the axe starts dropping on their lazy asses. NBCi just dropped 20% of their staff--and them muhfuckas still got like $300 million in operating cash, not to talk of mad advertising weight with NBC. If stuff is looking tight for them, I don't understand how 360 thinks they'll survive with no store.
And cut out all the bullshit about short films! Took me mad long just see the promo for "The Art Of War" yesterday, and I'm on a T1. There's no way your average surfer will be coming to 360hiphop for the short films. Wake that ass up! |
Anybody else getting their posts repeated? Is there an echo in here? |
I have been working in E-commerce for two years now, and it suprises me to see what HOOKT is offering it's unique users as "E-Commerce".
So you mean to tell me that it took that long to put up "that wack e-commerce site". I bet they spent a mint on personnel and some VP is getting paid hilariously over there for that crap. They only have clothing for now and have billboards posted that cd's, films, and games are coming soom. WACK!!! All the items they offer (dont they know) that it is easier to go to a"Ghetto Outlets" ie. Dr. Jays, SND Underground, BROOKLYN, HARLEM stores and buy this stuff than it is to let HOOKT handle the fulfillment.
Their VC should pull the plug on their monies quick before they lose it ALL up someone's nose.
The stuff that HOOKT is presenting as an E-commerce solution could have been done in less than a month as long as you had some good relationships with those affiliate stores on their platform.
Isnt that why you make people VP's of Sales and E-Commerce because they bring those relationships to the table already?
Their E-commerce site hardly deserves a press release. As long as it takes for these urban sites to launch a revenue model and with all the money that they have swindled from unsuspecting VC's, I would expect something a little more creative and innovative in the urban arena. What about "click revenue technology incorporated into these content heavy sites".
They have video streams incorporated right into the sites. By this time these sites should have strong relationships with all retail entities in the internet space. But i guess they dont...SAD.
For me to give up any more information would be like one of these sites to pay me a six figure salary and let me show them how a real E-commerce site should be run. But I guess that will never happen because I am not an ex- music industry exec. (who all the sudden knows about the internet)
or I DONT SNIFF ENOUGH COKE.
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Please explain this? >> What about "click revenue technology incorporated into these
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Mgr27: I would love to talk about that in more detail but:
like i said, for me to give up any more information would be like one of these sites to pay me the high salaries that these flossing, undeserving fools are getting.
great comment oduduwa, it makes me wonder when NBCi is trimming the fat (and you see their market space and revenues); then you got some urban sites that think that just because they sell PHAT FARM or ENYCE feel that that's enough to generate revenue and solve their problems.
Not to pigeonhole anybody, but dont they know that the majority of the people who buy PHAT FARM, ENYCE, etc.. dont buy that stuff on the internet!!!! Not to pigeonhole again but do these people even have credit cards, and if so, do they trust these sites to lay theirs down?? I THINK NOT!!!
Those people more or less like to see and feel before buying, i know i do because you can find it in every mall, hood, and street corner in every city around the world.( i bet none of those sites did a focus group to determine this information)
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Not to dis, but i interviewed at a couple of urban .com companies about 5 months ago. And when I talked to them about generating alternative revenue streams from their sites (other than banners, and advertising) they looked at me like I had 8 heads.
And when I started talking about revenue and affiliates they did everything but escort me from their lovely temporary rental spaces. They couldnt understand my concept, then 1 month ago HOOKT called me and said they wanted me.... but sorry folk (i love my people, but) I would never go to work for any of these urban .com companys because they dont have a clue to what they are doing.
i wish them all the best of luck, but i will stay over here at my lilly white, boring, Ecommerce position- here in .com land.
It aint much, --but I get a very decent salary, we dont have any of that "urban drama", and WE ARE PUBLIC. sad to say but "white folk" are good at one thing, MAKING CASH..
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I'm glad to see the conversation elevated again, but I'm sure the punks will invade again and start calling somene a groupie slut.
I'm not convinced that e-commerce is the revenue solution that posters here seem to believe. While I think its a good thing for content plays to provide purchasing opportunities for their users, Hookt is making a mistake by taking on the fulfillment themselves. They now have to have a shipping department to send the gear that they sell. And anyone in the catalogue biz can attest, clothing has very high returns, and dealing with this problem will hurt Hookt's margins.
And as Greed already wrote, a significant portion of the audience that these hip hop sites are targetting don't have credit cards. And many of those that do, can't use them, cuz they have already maxed out their credit limit. And while many companies are working on this, widespread use of digital cash is still years away. So why will Hookt be successful with a b2c element, when Amazon, CDNOW, Kozmo, Urbanfetch, and a whole host of others have not.
And I have to strongly disagree with the statement that white companies are 'good at making cash' in this space. They are good at spending it, but everyone, and I mean, everyone is still trying to figure out how this whole game works.
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you are right, white folk are good at spending a lot of money....my bad
but "for self", i am better off here than at an urban .com anyday. but hey i aint mad at anybody, because we are all in it for the cash anyway, right
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Why would'nt Roc-a-fella roll with Rush? I understand that they want the world "to be theirs", but it takes a little more nowadays to get certain things off the ground.As for all those big websites that bling-bling, with the colorful, beatbanging, flavors, it has now just really dawned on me that these sites have used proven ghetto cats and label bigwigs to exploit us,and raise the bar on real hip-hop cats(living and breathing it) so it takes them a lifetime to put a record out with real hip hop substance, and for us as consumers to buy whatever is deemed as"hot". Lets stop being suckered people and look at these little mergers and other non hip hop shit for what it is.....mass produced radio, easy to digest, we can say jiggy with it and be down crossover for white cats that claim to have been down since day one, as merely entertainment, not life. |
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say it isnt SO!!!!! sounds kinda like an old Dr. Pepper marketing campaign (oops telling my age); "IM A PEPPER, WOULDNT YOU LIKE TO BE A PEPPER TOO"
just replace PEPPER w/ "UBOer" how corny is that marketing campaign.
When are all these urban portals going to realize that most black folk who spend money on the internet do not watch hip hop video and keep up with the latest street trends below 23rd Street.
Most are in your middle american cities ie. DET, CHI, KC, STL, HOU, DAL, etc.. that dont give hip hop and the entertainment industry as much energy as people in NY and LA, and ATL do. When it all comes down to it, these urban sites are battling for the same eyes as the next one. They will all remain the same until a site comes along that does something viable to the unique users needs.
not that i am giving e-commerce more revenue credit than it deserves but obviously what these sites needed to have in the first place was affiliate programs based on ecommerce, then you would need no fullfillment center or staff overhead. it would cost some HTML programming time and POOF any purchases that your unique users made, the site would be collecting revenue. coupled with a strategic online marketing campaign, and you there you have traffic, and revenue without the all the excess overhead.
HOOKT just made a huge mistake, by handling their own fullfillments that's what let's me know that they dont know what they are doing. "You are going to see their employees housing a lot of that gear for dolo" kinda sounds like BOO.COM all over again.
The ecommerce they have just introduced as "groundbreaking" should have been there when they launched at first. IT IS NOTHING SPECIAL AT ALL. They should be expanding into the next arena of ecommerce.
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Black Entertainment Television (BET) is providing live coverage of next week's Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles with an exciting variety of thought-provoking commentaries, political analysis and interviews. BET's programming from Campaign 2000 includes a
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ARE EMAIL BOMBERS WHO LISTEN TO HIP HOP SMART OR WHAT? check out the sample i recieved this morning:
"FROM: crispusattucks@urbanexpose.com
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Yo nigga stay the fuck off UE with your punk ass Jamaican welfare shit. Dont
fuck with black americans coconut because we ready to fuck you up.
Stay off the site or we'll post all yo personal shit on UE motherfucker.
Crispus
p.s. check yer email lately, bitch?
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hahahahahahahahahahaha...
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OH, a snipe campaign. I wonder how many markets they are doing this in. whatever!!!! they are still too late for marketing and advertising. the time for them to do that was earlier this year so that by now UBO would be fixed into the minds of young urban professionals world wide.
Funny, I was down on Wall Street a month ago and saw this commuter bus with HAIRWEB.com on it, I had to laugh because i know that Shaniqua from around my way goes to Blaque Flava Hair Salon and isnt interested at all of going to the web to receive her database of "hair technicians", besides her drug dealer boyfriend Rakim takes care of her hair and nails when he comes with the baby's new motor car and Baby Gear from Phat Farm and Tommy Hilfig.
Just a bit of sarcasm..... but who funded these things. And who cares that there is a database of hairsalons on your site, does that attract uniques or dollars, NO !!!!!(correct me if I am wrong)
UBO needs to do something a little more ingenious than a cheap snipe campaign to drive people to their sites. (never seen snipes for garden.com, Etour.com, or even Yahoo) THE INTERNET SPACE IS NOT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SO STOP MARKETING IT LIKE YOU ARE MARKETING A NEW HIP HOP RELEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is their audience? Who is their audience? Are they even on line? Is it wise to do a cheesy offline marketing campaign to bring people online? Where's your online presence OUTSIDE the urban arena? These are just some of the reasons why these sites will eventually fall to the waist side unless some ingenuity is put into them.
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Respect, Afflicted.
It's highly possible that someone sent that with the intention of making it appear that crispus@urbanexpose.com sent the email to you.
That's how it reads to me. I don't know the guy, but he's done a good job of being impartial with this site, and not editing or deleting peoples' posts - no matter how outlandish they may be.
Just a thought.
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miranda: no shit...?!
you think the "SENDPAD" thing might have gave them away??
clearly, whoever sent the email is not going to win any nice awards from MENSA anytime soon.
SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU you have barely 40 words in your every day vocabularly?
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To get back to the e-commerce discussion:
A big problem I've noticed about BUILDING an e-commerce site ("urban"-oriented or not)is that a lot of outside vendors who say they have the capabilities to build and maintain the site to your particular specifications are all-too-often just as new to the world of e-commerce as you may be and are poorly equipped to provide you with the back-end technology you need to run your site efficiently.
Also, regarding what these sites are selling and to whom- (speaking about hip hop sites in particular- the majority of the people who are really going to want to buy shit off the web are people who loooooove hip hop (and have money to spend) but don't live in New York, LA or Atlanta. The majority of these people live in FOREIGN COUNTRIES. So, theoretically, if a site is marketed properly you might get a whole buncha kids in Japan, London and Amsterdam,etc. wanting to buy your shit on-line, using a credit/debit card.
The only problem is there are still a lot of problems regarding the vagaries or non-existence of internet tax laws. Net businesses have to be very careful about issues concerning sales tax and handling charges. Another big problem is it's still really really expensive to ship non-bulk items overseas. So, if someone in Paris orders a Roc-a-wear hoody that retails for $40.00 he may wind up being charged an additional $35.00 or so in shipping, which usually results in a cancelled order. So, until enough site dev companies catch up on the technology and knowledge needed to properly build e-commerce sites and until we're able to profitably market and ship to an overseas clientele, it's going to be slow progress. |
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"THE INTERNET SPACE IS NOT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SO STOP MARKETING
IT LIKE YOU ARE MARKETING A NEW HIP HOP
RELEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is their audience? Who is their audience? Are they even on
line? Is it wise to do a cheesy offline marketing campaign to bring
people online? Where's your online presence OUTSIDE the urban
arena? These are just some of the reasons why these sites will
eventually fall to the waist side unless some ingenuity is put into
them.
STILL VENTING
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OH I'M SORRY !!!
I think they just wanted to give a "holla holla" to all our ghetto fly chickenheads on their way to their high paying jobs down on Wall Street at 9:30 in the morning---- YEA RIGHT!!!!
the ones around my way dont even leave the block.
Hmmm. maybe they should hire me to do some real "in the hood" marketing.
Let's see... how about some 1/2 off coupons to your local Hairweb affiliate when you visit our site, along with $1.00 off on a 12 piece bucket of dark meat from MAMA's Fried Chicken Shack redeemable at one of these lovely participating
establishments in: Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, and Harlem excluding Staten Island.
I figure that's worth about $100,000 a year. lol.
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The funny thing is 360hiphop has that uglyass "I'm Hip Hop" billboard right over the entrance to my subway station- and I swear that every muthafucka who works at 360 lives on that block or is fucking someone who lives on that block.
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I agree with you.
question: how many of these sites are advertising overseas?....
answer: NONE
Companies like gap.com, fogdog.com, and even garden.com are making a killing overseas and the tax issues are somehow getting worked out. Everywhere you go in Paris, London, Rome, Tokyo and Amsterdam you see hip hop clothing in the stores so there is a huge market for it and they can get it.
So what makes these portals think that they can attract those e-commerce dollars from those people without a proper marketing campaign. Then once to the site you have to give them something extra that they cant from a brick and mortar experience.
The things that we are talking about here are sooooo far over their heads that they cant stand it.
All I see is a lot of wasted dollars spent marketing to a bunch of jaded entertainment industry heads who got "hook-up'' everywhere and dont pay for anything anyway and never have..
kinda makes you wonder, right
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Good points, Ms. Bee.
"<i>A big problem I've noticed about BUILDING an e-commerce site ("urban"-oriented or not)is that a lot of outside vendors who say they have the capabilities to build and maintain the site to your particular specifications are all-too-often just as new to the world of e-commerce as you may be and are poorly equipped to provide you with the back-end technology you need to run your site efficiently</i>."
I would have thought a direct partnership with the clothing manufacturer (Phat Farm, Ecko etc) would be lucrative on both ends. They can eliminate the middle-man cost of retail, and the advertisement works also as a sales avenue. I'm not a programmer, but surely it can't be that hard to write software that delivers an online order to a manufacturer who handles it from there. The content play either takes a cut of each individual order, or a lump sum in the old mag-advertising mold.
<i>Also, regarding what these sites are selling and to whom- (speaking about hip hop sites in particular- the majority of the people who are really going to want to buy shit off the web are people who loooooove hip hop (and have money to spend) but don't live in New York, LA or Atlanta. The majority of these people live in FOREIGN COUNTRIES.</i>
This is a great point, and is also the reason why I think e-commerce is a great way to pay publishing costs, and will probably be more lucrative than simple advertising ever was. A hip hop listener in Singapore or Sweetbottom, South Carolina might have internet access and a disposable income, but they probably have no way of conveniently shopping for clothes unless they travel. Since I don't believe these sites are designed for blue-collar, city-dwelling Blacks and Latinos, let these more affluent readers, listeners and viewers of your shit make your site profitable. Form some alliances with artists--either those with clothing lines or those just trying to hawk a couple T-shirts. The Web site will have a virtual inventory (since they don't have to store the shit themselves) and the artist/clothing line has real international reach.
<i>So, theoretically, if a site is marketed properly you might get a whole buncha kids in Japan, London and Amsterdam,etc. wanting to buy your shit on-line, using a credit/debit card.
The only problem is there are still a lot of problems regarding the vagaries or non-existence of internet tax laws.</i>
This ain't a problem until the government makes it one, and from personal experience, I don't see any real consensus coming on this for a while. Net taxation will probably happen, but these cats can still mint some money while the Feds are figuring how to get their cut.
<i>Another big problem is it's still really really expensive to ship non-bulk items overseas. So, if someone in Paris orders a Roc-a-wear hoody that retails for $40.00 he may wind up being charged an additional $35.00 or so in shipping, which usually results in a cancelled order.</i>
Other sites are doing it. Catalogs have done it for decades. Shit, record companies can get their act together to sell shirts long-distance. If people are serious about international e-commerce, it can be done. They're saving crazy overhead that a retail store has to tack on the price anyway. It's easier for them to make a profit, and they can make it easier on the buyer's wallet, which is an added incentive.
The Black and Latino people that international hip hop listeners mimic so earnestly already know where to go to shop. They don't need to shop by computer. They'll set the trends and go out to physically buy. But the folks that make fashion a multi-billion dollar industry are scattered all over this country and the world. They have the money and the incentive to shop on the Internet.
The lack of digital cash is a huge road-block though. I agree with that. My whole thing is, why isn't there a direct-debit system which takes the money from your checking account, the way some utilities have it set up? Is it a software-writing problem? I've even seen porn sites that use a similar system. |
My friends who come visit from London, Amsterdam and Jamaica LOAD UP on consumer goods like clothes, footwear, CDs/DVFDs and magazies when they come visit me. I always thought that the 'net was made for worldwide information and commerce. Are a lot of people missing the point? We have seminars here at my company about worldwide marketing. |
Allright for targeted demographics!
By the sound of it Ms. Bee you gotta live in downtown Brooklyn somewhere (maybe i am wrong but, i bet i am right).
Those " I AM HIP HOP" heads need to take that A-train a few stops east to B'Way- East NY (My Hood) and get a feel of what real Hip Hop is.
I dont see any 360 billboards there and if these marketing personnel want to "keep it real or right" -that is the REAL HOOD (and it dont get any hoodier than E.NY especially in the summer)
that's where you start educating our people about your so called "HIP HOP PORTAL"- get those folks online-
I dare you.
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Oduduwa:
Excellent points- but these crafty sites are too busy probably embezzling the money to invest in any type of software and form partnership/alliances with these clothing companies.
and you are right... catalogues have been doing these kind of tranactions for decades and it hasnt been a problem.
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Good points, Ms. Bee.
"<i>A big problem I've noticed about BUILDING an e-commerce site ("urban"-oriented or not)is that a lot of outside vendors who say they have the capabilities to build and maintain the site to your particular specifications are all-too-often just as new to the world of e-commerce as you may be and are poorly equipped to provide you with the back-end technology you need to run your site efficiently</i>."
I would have thought a direct partnership with the clothing manufacturer (Phat Farm, Ecko etc) would be lucrative on both ends. They can eliminate the middle-man cost of retail, and the advertisement works also as a sales avenue. I'm not a programmer, but surely it can't be that hard to write software that delivers an online order to a manufacturer who handles it from there. The content play either takes a cut of each individual order, or a lump sum in the old mag-advertising mold.
<i>Also, regarding what these sites are selling and to whom- (speaking about hip hop sites in particular- the majority of the people who are really going to want to buy shit off the web are people who loooooove hip hop (and have money to spend) but don't live in New York, LA or Atlanta. The majority of these people live in FOREIGN COUNTRIES.</i>
This is a great point, and is also the reason why I think e-commerce is a great way to pay publishing costs, and will probably be more lucrative than simple advertising ever was. A hip hop listener in Singapore or Sweetbottom, South Carolina might have internet access and a disposable income, but they probably have no way of conveniently shopping for clothes unless they travel. Since I don't believe these sites are designed for blue-collar, city-dwelling Blacks and Latinos, let these more affluent readers, listeners and viewers of your shit make your site profitable. Form some alliances with artists--either those with clothing lines or those just trying to hawk a couple T-shirts. The Web site will have a virtual inventory (since they don't have to store the shit themselves) and the artist/clothing line has real international reach.
<i>So, theoretically, if a site is marketed properly you might get a whole buncha kids in Japan, London and Amsterdam,etc. wanting to buy your shit on-line, using a credit/debit card.
The only problem is there are still a lot of problems regarding the vagaries or non-existence of internet tax laws.</i>
This ain't a problem until the government makes it one, and from personal experience, I don't see any real consensus coming on this for a while. Net taxation will probably happen, but these cats can still mint some money while the Feds are figuring how to get their cut.
<i>Another big problem is it's still really really expensive to ship non-bulk items overseas. So, if someone in Paris orders a Roc-a-wear hoody that retails for $40.00 he may wind up being charged an additional $35.00 or so in shipping, which usually results in a cancelled order.</i>
Other sites are doing it. Catalogs have done it for decades. Shit, record companies can get their act together to sell shirts long-distance. If people are serious about international e-commerce, it can be done. They're saving crazy overhead that a retail store has to tack on the price anyway. It's easier for them to make a profit, and they can make it easier on the buyer's wallet, which is an added incentive.
The Black and Latino people that international hip hop listeners mimic so earnestly already know where to go to shop. They don't need to shop by computer. They'll set the trends and go out to physically buy. But the folks that make fashion a multi-billion dollar industry are scattered all over this country and the world. They have the money and the incentive to shop on the Internet.
The lack of digital cash is a huge road-block though. I agree with that. My whole thing is, why isn't there a direct-debit system which takes the money from your checking account, the way some utilities have it set up? Is it a software-writing problem? I've even seen porn sites that use a similar system. |
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To be honest, I think its because these sites aren't really catering to the audience we expect them to. They are purely hip hop sites, dedicated to covering the majority of that audience (read--70% suburban white). I don't think that's necessarily wrong, but I do think that the insistence on calling their sites "urban", rather than coming out and saying, "African American", "Caribbean" etc., comes from the fact that they know they will alienate the audience they want to reach. As such, they're not interested in other parts of African-American, Spanish-speaking Caribbean (I got issues with the word "Latino") cultures. They're selling the youth pop culture of the day, which is inspired by hip hop. |
Everyone is hitting on it. Selling Hip Hop in the Hood won't be as effective as selling it in Utah or Nebraska or Minnesota. Take that market and add the foreign market and that's where these sites are going to tap into revenues. Do you think that someone who has access to the clothing stores will buy the same thing on the net? No.
This is the same as record clubs when they where first established. Folks who lived in rural areas didn't have access to the record stores, so the stores where brought to them in the form of catalogues.
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Word to Isidro.
Anything "urban" doesn't impress those of us in the metropolitan areas of the world. We know too well what the "urban" landscape is really about - racism, classism, gentrification, and socio-economic politics.
Imagine living in Americus, GA or Provo, UT - the only flavor you could find would be on the internet. Duh.
So, yeah, UBO or any other "urban" company is not going to spend ad dollars in the 'hood, so to speak. But they're still dumb to even place ads (or snipes, for that matter - whoever works for the UBO street team has issues) in "urban" areas. We already live there, fools!
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why is impact247 (read vanguarde) on the hookt dick. that advertorial as greed pointed out was way off! their e-commerce site (though it beat their competitions to market) is way way wack.
vanguarde/impact247 loses clout points for that one. speakin of vanguarde.... where the hell are all the sites they said they were launchin'. i was waitin' to see what their neomedia company was going to pump out, but what the fuck is going on. its time to bring the hate on them, cause they are bullshittin!
waitn' for the muthah fuckin school bus - aaaarghhhh!!!!
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In regards to the UBO snipe issue:
At least they got rid of the posters touting a morbidly obese "sumo wrestler" named Tiny. (Har har--get it? He's really big, but his name is "Tiny." Whoo. Killer stuff, retards.) I'm sure you never saw them--marketing couldn't sell mushrooms to Eminem--but the tag line, "720 lbs. of Urban" should have been replaced by "720 stock options you can wipe your ass with."
The only good thing about UBO is all the hot women, and only a few showed up in the new campaign. By all means, give me a guy with a turban when there's dirty little porn stars roaqming around who look like they're allergic to bras.
And I still say that afFLicted is funny as fuck.
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"Quick, someone tell me why Steven Samuels doesn't kick Adam Matthews' ass as soon as he shows his Triscuit (salty cracker) face in the office."
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Triscuit face was a VERY good one, by the way.
Rather than risk probation, Steven may elect to hire Puffy to beat Adam mercilessly with a champagne bottle, or perhaps Jay-Z could stab him with his nail file. Or, the Brat could be paid to pistol whip him, or perhaps Keith Murray could crown him with a barstool for a fee. There are quite a few viable options here.
I'm sure Fox Boogie would put the ill nana on him if the check was right.
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steven samuels is a smug fat bastard. it must be cool to have a girl you can let run out all hours of the night and know she isn't cheating on you because no one wants her.
what the hell is he on probation for? stealing twinkies from costco's? lighting ants on fire with his glasses?
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why sohh look like blaze now? why they just straight rip blaze.com?
steven samuels hides behind felicias skirt. steven also has a man-vagina instead of a penis.
clink clink clink, goes their eye-glasses when they kiss
clang clang clang, goes the scale when they get on it.
fart,fart,fart goes their big butts when they eat chocodiles in the evening
run,run,run do they do for SOHH awards and never lose weight.
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anyone noticed how steven samuels of SOHH smells like pork chops on a hot day?
the image of steven samuels and felicia having sex reminds me of two pigs in a blanket wrastling.
i heard they used to have sex on top of old issues essesce and the source magazines. getting all sweaty , with glossy ads for hair products and karl kani jeans getting stuck in their rolls of fat.
steven wipes his ass with a bed mattress. he has to buy a new one everytime he wants to excrete waste. sometime he just recycles it.
is felicia giving up that square butt to grade B unknown rappers that she courts for SOHH music awards?
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Felicia and Steven broke up because of Felicias flirting ways. She as all out in the street doing her thang catching feelings while Steven was slaving away in front of a monitor all day eating low grade pizza jerking off to porno pictures.
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Felicia wears that headwrap even when she is having sex. She will stop sex in the middle if it starts falling off. She will hold on to you for dear life , even if she is getting pounded out.
Steven used to get off by jerking off into that headwrap. She would walk around all day claiming she always had a part of Steven with her. |
Who the fuck are you "Urban Pro," talking all that shit about Steve and Felicia?
First of all, I can't STAND when ignorant print fucks get on the web and start calling people geeks. This is the geek's world, baby, so get the fuck out of here! The world wouldn't wipe it's ass with your cut-and-paste, zero-circulation, Xeroxed at your mama's office "small rap publication."
Call them geeks, but that is why S.O.H.H. has, and will, continue to outlast 99% of the hip hop sites out there. Because Steve and Felicia know what the fuck they are doing. Because they have brains and take the time to use them. They are busy building a site and running a business, which they did successfully for 5 years WITHOUT the millions of dollars of Venture Capital these record industry clowns are wasting.
Hip hop started out as a means of self-expression for black folks (funny how many people "in the industry" forget that these days). And, here you are dogging Felicia, a beautiful black woman with ethnic features and a woman's body. Why? Because she doesn't look like the emaciated, processed, Anglicized video ho that you think black women are supposed to look like ever since you were introduced to them when MTV played its first Puff Daddy video.
And yet...you spend a lot of time concocting sexual escapades for her. Is that a Palm Pilot in your pocket, or do you just wish you knew how to work technology well enough to attract a smart woman instead of beating off over your keyboard while you post fantasies about her?
Urban "Pro", clearly, you have been deeply hurt by Steve and Felicia. You have proven to the world that they have a powerful effect on your psyche and self-esteem. May I suggest a trip to the bookstore--first to pick up a copy of "Hooked on Phonics," then on over to the Self Help section for your inner child.
It'll be alright, baby--if the karma doesn't kick your ass first.
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hey , i think you make good points.
the fact remains that felicia is shaped like a jelly bean and not the earth mother goddess.
steven being a geek is good , but he should promote that , not the fact that he is on probation for beating felicia up after she screamed on him for having a little dick compared to some unknown rapper that was fucking her. |
Fact or fiction, another fact remains: that you are a nobody ,and nobody will ever talk about you by your real name because you will never do anything that has a strong enough impact on anyone to warrant real attention--positive or negative.
Keep wasting trees with your nobody "small rap publication." I'm sure we won't read about it here. |
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look U.R. Steven Samuels. I understand you are mad at the reality. Your site as acheived a measure of success , but somebody is still fucking your girl. better than you are.
its hard to handle. you wouldnt be the first man driven mad at the thought of someone else tearing your girls back out. |
Off the subject but of interest.
Check out this story on 360Hiphop and BET http://www.inside.com/story/Story_Cached/0,2770,8968_9_16_1,00.html
Speaking as one who has been humbled by this Internet game, it seems like even the biggest dogs are having trouble in this space.
Whew! It's not just me, still trying to figure this thing out.
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