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No Purpose. No Soul.
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Soulpurpose.com is another UBO foundation site. It's supposed to be a community site for an e-mail list that recycles press releases and covers parties sponsored by Moet and Captain Morgan's spiced rum. Interns everywhere read it thinking they'll get a glimpse into the entertainment industry.
Soul Purpose shows why America is great. Only here can a junior rag marketer working in Podunk, NJ get a company to put $50 million dollars worth of resources behind a e-mail newsletter run off his AOL account. It's also an example of the mediocrity that leads to bland websites with low traffic. Soul Purpose excels in tooting its own horn and dropping names of executives and celebrities who don't even know that Soul Purpose exists.
When you sign-up, the site promises that the newsletter is daily, and that by signing up, you have access to bulletin boards, chat, and tools. Upon signing up, you realize you've been duped. There are no tools, chat or bulletin boards. They fooled you! The newsletter only comes out twice a week at the most. It doesn't have the celebrity voice of EUR or the industry legitimacy of Vanguarde's Impact. Many executives complain about asking Soul Purpose to unsubscribe them, only to find the newsletter in their e-mail again! The stories are often written in a flat tone laced with middle manager and hip-hop buzzwords in attempts to be cool. They brag about having analysis of issues and deals in the urban entertainment sphere, but we've seen more inspired editorial in Big Mac Publishing number sheets. All they do is rewrite press releases, and they do a piss poor job of that. In the rare times that the newsletter does go out, it contains the lamest In/Out list ever seen (Jessica Shaw has the hottest one). Recently, in the Soul Purpose dedicated to dissing UE, the list contained this curious item:
Out: The Den
In: UBO
Right.
The site has features with uninspired names like John Blaze List and "Faces and Places". There are only five photographs in Faces and Places of which Andre Royo is featured as an actor and a tastemaker. Soul Purpose has that right, he is a tastemaker; Andre Royo makes quite a tasty cosmopolitan for us while we are at Butta-cup lounge. No ice please, thanks Andre.
The site blows. Drab colors and meaningless repetitive backgrounds help to hide what little content is there. A weird navigation system also tries to obfuscate the fact that nothing is happening on this site. The site is broken in the traditional UBO style. On the About page you see errors as well as a desperate plea for people to submit content. They have a java-based scrolling applet that displays the names of people subscribed to Soul Purpose. It reads like the who's who of the shiny, golden business card set. (You know the type, where one person is Chairman, President and CEO and they throw parties at Transit Halls).
The redesign of Soul Purpose is coming, its hip-hop smoothed out on the R&B tip with an Urban Exposé feel appeal to it. Oh well, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
After Soul Purpose originally lauded praise on our site, James Andrews did a 180 and has decided to use Soul Purpose as a soapbox to launch diatribes and witch hunts against anyone who supports Urban Exposé. James has even gone so far as to block access to Urban Exposé from all UBO employees. James is also telling people that the KKK is behind this site. While we do enjoy a nice Tropical Fantasy with a bag of Utz potato chips in our Troop Jackets, we are no way affiliated with the KKK. He has made empty threats of hiring hackers and expert detectives to destroy Urban Expose. Should we be watching out for Knox Robinson? Knox seems to know us like we smoked some beadies together.
Evidently, he is so afraid of the critical analysis presented here, that he has taken up religion and starting quoting the bible:
"But no human being can tame the tongue -- a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the likeness of God. From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brethren, this ought not to be so."
James 3:8-10
In his typically egotistical fashion, he decided to quote from the book of James. (Why not Deuteronomy? Did he get that from Rev. Run?).
James has used Soul Purpose lately to belittle writers, claiming that they are "low-level, no stock option having, graduate of source school of hip-hop, player hatin, can't get into events, record company reject kids".
Forget the tastemakers. We support the content-makers. Cheers to all the talented people out there doing original stuff. We're reading it all.
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Soulpurpose is wack it's wannabe jiggy insiders bullshit. It's a little gay group of village club hoppers sucking eachother off. Ohh so and so had a party with a certain DJ, who cares? That site is garbage with their gay Jon Blaze list other worthless content. |
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wow
That was a photon torpedo.
A lot of that seems true, although there
seems to be more of a personal problem
with James Andrews that fuels most of the criticism.
I've come across some decent writing on the site, yet I agree the design does everything
possible to discourage you from actually reading the contents. True the "newsbytes" are unnecessary,
since one probably read the same info is last week's EUR.
One thing, I think it was quite egotistical, in the vein of your intended target,
to insinuate that Soul Purpose's redesign was based on UrbanExpose. The turncoat who provided
you with your screenshot should have also been swift enough to
discover that this redesign has been laid out for months.
Even my weak UBO sources verified that.
Doc T Doom |
How come Mclean Greaves isn't sucking these people's asses too? You know him...if its BLACK and POINTLESS..he's got to be somewhere around with those fucking annoying glasses and his stupid wife with the ginger pubes.
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Hey Thulsa
Whats up with your post, did you write it first in a word processor and then post it here? The text wraps all funny which means you couldnt have writting it int he text box, must have been cut and past which means you must have thought about your response for a while. The only reason you would do that is if your upset by the posting and you would only be upset if you work at UBO/Soul Purpose. Hmmm very interesting.
This article is clearly personal but so is the rest of the site, I dont think the MITP article or the Darrien Dash article was any less personal. I'm sure darrien doesnt think it was less personal anyway.
Art 4 Short |
Sorry, Art, I just have have a habit of occaisionally
hitting the return key when typing in this small window.
A little too much conspiracy theory flakes for breakfast, my friend.
I'm not employed by UBO, nor upset by the posting. Your line of reasoning
is intriguing, however.
I would concur with you that a lot of the attacks get personal, but it seems
they gave a little extra to James Andrews, on top of the blasting he got in the
ring kings piece.
Doom, DT |
Thusla,
Is James Andrews a personal friend of yours? Are you dating or do you have some sort of other type relationship? I'm pointing this out to you because this is the second time that I've seen you attempt to discredit someone's opinion on this site because you believe that the poster has issues with James Andrews.
From what I've seen Andrews makes himself the target of people's attacks by making it very clear, vocally at events (yes, I've been to sets with him) and in his writings as "Andy Platinum" that Soul Purpose is all about him. So any critical review of the site would logically include Andrews, take a look at the site he's all over the place.
I think this story is dead on. Is reporting urban business all about who was at a party with Moet, or who's having a party? Who has a Rolex or a Nokia Chrome Phone? And just how many names have to be dropped before we get the point that there were celebrities at these events? Whatever man. Is that all Urban business about? I don't think so.
And the screenshots, well they need to go back to the drawing board with those. Who cares if they were designed before Urban Expose? The point is they got beat to the punch. And after Andrews went on the attack and basically started a urban witchhunt to find out who's behind this site, soulpurpose is just gonna look like a bunch of biting suckers when they put that up.
It looks too complicated for them anyway. The site they got now is a million broken links. |
This site is so funny! Damn! Got UBO catching the holy ghost and everything! |
Whoa, people usually ignore mt posts.
Thanks for paying attention to my rants.
Sorry, couldn't even recognize James in a lineup, ot tell the
truth. Actually, me being such an outsider in this town, his is one of the
few recognizable names to me, along with Dash and Almighty Rush.
Do you, Russnet, believe the writers at UrbanExpose are above reproach?
Does every post on UE require merely piling it on?
The Doomster |
In answer to your first question , no. No one is above reproach. But I also think that the writers on UE are catching flack for basically pointing out the feelings of a lot of people in this urban net game. You can basically see that from the amount of posts on the site.
In addition, I do read your posts and the posts of others, it seems like you go far on the anaylsis of EVERYTHING on this site. Like everything has a double meaning and this is the game of Clue.
For an so called "outsider" you know alot about this game to put up a review of every story. I am not sure what you mean about every post on UE requiring merely piling it on, But if you mean that there should be nothing but praise, hell no. When you wrong, you wrong
I think you can guess, I support, this site. I personally know a lot of suckers posing that need to get bust down a few. Maybe the thought of getting blasted the next day on UE will prevent their ignorant asses from doing something stupid. Somehow I doubt it but it's worth a shot. |
Thulsa,
Yeah they do seem to save a special hype-blast mode for mr. andrews, but from the post above he seems to merit it. I've looked at the soul purpose site and it is really a nightmare of design. It was clearly done by someone way to overworked and drunk to know better, but how did the folks at UBO let something that bad be opened to the public.
Either they felt people were to stupid to notice, to desparate for their weak editorial to care or their all insane. Either way the site needs a redesign really bad.
Did anyone else notice that a graphic header in the graphic of the redesgined site says "Big Heads get Raises in UBO." Thats pretty telling about how the employees feel about the place and if this was done ages ago its even more interesting.
Art4Short |
This most certainly is a game of Clue, and i'm not sure that
I go any further along than any other player at this masquerade ball in trying to peer behind
the masks. Bravo, Russnet, you've got me defending myself.
I, too, support this site. I'm clearly hooked on it liek "Survivor." My criticism is mostly directed NOT at UE writers,
but at some of the more virulent posters who seem to go far beyond shock value and into the
realm of hate, and I don't mean in the slang sense of jealousy.
Indeed, some of the victims could do themselves a service by taking the time to weed through
the personal attacks and see the valid criticism provided. Of course, judging from an earlier post describing good ol' James Andrews
decree against visiting UE from UBO offices, some have chosen unwisely to merely ignore this dialogue.
Don't you agree that these issues deserve deep analysis?
You definitely have me intrigued as to where you fit in to the urbanet game, Russnet. Your posts reveal more than
a passing interest in the carnage.
Tha D.O.C.
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I never felt there was anything wrong with Soul Purpose even when it started early last year as a simple email distributed to subscribers..
It dams sure appears that cats have mad hate for James Andrews....I dont know him, never met him, but I was glad when the newsletter got picked up by a larger compnay and heads I know read it on the regular.....didnt seem like a Gossipy Type Newsletter like EUR..and I got a lot of info out of it..
maybe James effed up by doing a lil premature investigation and fingerpointing by naming who he thought the creators of this site were....bad judgement perhaps.
maybe theres a coupla individuals at UBO who not so pleasent runins with Andrews...
whatever the case, if mofos here hate Soul Purpose so much-i say create one and show how it should be done...untill then, stop yappin about how wack it is...
Ohsokool aka Mr. BlingBling |
that's funny, cos soul purpose proposed knox as a prime candidate for the authorship of exposé. the plot thickens, co-conspirators, and apropos of that, isn't there a fucking gigantic grassy knoll right in the middle of fort greene???? |
the best of times and the worst of times. times times times. |
Hmm..
Wasn't there a SoulPurpose article that named an 18 y/o white guy in Buffalo, Will Creeley as the author/producer of UE
Interesting that there's no mention of this in the S/P article.
Is it true? What do people think?
How does it change how you feel about UE if it is in fact true?
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Hey "eddie brannan" and "VentiMochaFrap"
This is really getting crazy. I read the Soul Purpose story by Knox Robinson, in which they seem to claim that they have discovered the real identity of the person behind UE and its a 18 year old white kid from somewhere in NY (buffalo i think). But if you read the story very carefully you;ll see that they never really claim that the story is true. Notice the title of the story is "A Hoax is a hoax - can you tell?" The whole story is made up. Its a HOAX get it?!?!
Clearly, Mr Andrews, after getting confronted by Mr. Dash, thought it was a good idea to back away from his Crispus Attikus persona and point the finger of blame far away from himself. But he went to far. How could an 18 year old white kid in upstate NY know anything about MITP? There are almost never any white folks there (unless Tanya brings them through for a show). Think people think, its the only way are going to prove who is behind this site. Also note that soul purpose didnt send out that story in the email version of the newsletter, if they had really found out who was behind the site they would be running all over the place telling anyone who would listen. They also wouldnt keep their employees from this site.
Personally, I'm no longer convinced that its UBO, all the chating tools and stuff remind me of my home, Blackplanet.com, as far as I know the CEO of Blackplanet is Omar who does all this stuff on TV and also started alot of the online stuff in NY. I'm not a internet guru like some claim on the boards but I know how to put 2 and 2 together and make 4.
art4short |
Does anyone really attend those MITP events????
I'm witing to get my Places of Color I thkn out ooof all of the sites DArrien DAsh will win it all cause he is letting the rest sit and fight while he tires to produce a valid product. |
Is it just me or does this site have two tabs (TV & film) that don't work? What's the deal? |
UltraDiva.com SIKE
Dash will lose because his sub par product is below the standerd and he hasnt stoped to pay attention to the fact that you cant get away with that anymore |
I hope Thuglite wasn't trying to diss me , cause I'll bust that ass without thinking twice you little trick ass biatch. You can't step to me or my site! |
The search feature on SoulPurpose simply does not work. If it's broken, take it down you idiots. Another cold fusion <i>contusion</i>. And what's with the quote right in the middle of the homepage being from their own stooge "Andy Platinum," good grief, why is his autograph there? Maybe "Andy Platinum" and "Sean Jean" were the kids in class who sat signing their name a million times in their notebook. Retarded. "The shadow of urban culture,".... we wish you would relegate yourself to the shadows.
This UE article certainly rings true with the charge of namedropping. I had never seen SoulPurpose before, but they sure do hype the celebrities. Is hip hop just the famous people on MTV? If jazz stretches from Wynton Marsalis to the kid practicing in the subway, why is urban culture reserved for just the flashy hypemakers?
R.B. Banks |
Inside.com just posted this story:
Exposed! The Man Behind the Curtain at Urbanexpose
...with this revelation:
Attucks, it turns out, is one McLean Greaves, most recently the chief technology officer at HBO's urban-lifestyle site Volume.com. Greaves, who moved to Brooklyn's Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood from Toronto in 1994, has been a rock-band manager, an associate new-media editor at Paper magazine and a columnist for Essence.
...at this address:
http://www.inside.com/story/Story_Cached/0,2770,6370,00.html |
The Inside.com story is interesting, but why does UE have such a heavy ax to grind against UBO?? There seem to be enough mistakes made all over the urban net landscape, that such a narrow focus seems a bit unjustified.
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Thanks for the headz up on the inside.com story. I suspected that UE's creator was a designer. What I find truly fascintating was Greaves' claim that this site was profitable from its first week out. How could this be? What's the business model here? UE has no advertising, no sponsorship, and its not a subscription model. We certainly don't pay and won't pay for access. So how can this site be profitable?
The content is extremely focused on the urban (read as black) experience in New Media. The content here is so insider oriented that it precludes the acquisition of a mass audience. How, Mr. Greaves do you propose to gain serious traction if you alienate so many. So small audience means little ad revenue.
UE should be viewed like a trade publication, like a Billboard, or better yet the black, playa hating version of The Industry Standard. But all trade publications, online or offline get the bulk of their ad dollars from the industries that they cover. Now with UE's mocking editorial focus, you piss off the very people who should be your prime advertising targets.
I certainly hope that your writing staff isn't making their free contributions in the hope of some big bucks IPO cuz it ain't going to happen.
Still, I believe that there is room for a serious online urban focused New Media trade outlet, but it can only succeed with someone who wants to build the community not tear it down. McLean I think you fucked up your own game. |
Has any one thought about the fact that this could one of the single most incredible PR stunts being executed and we are all willing participants in the "internet based" social experiment??? |
mclean not very surprising with your tropical fantasy ass. it is truly easy to see how easeily you fall into catering to the most base and mean in people as your own charcter gives you a great reference point. this can be see consistently throughout your career and personal choices. you give form and foul smelling voice to the sins of disunity fomenting self destruction among minority entrepeneurs and minorities in general. you really should take a moment some time to think about where your karma stands and where it may take you. but of course you will probably smugly laugh this off.. i hope it can keep out the growing sense of doubt... tick tock. but hey motherfucker we both know what you are on the inside.
you are a poser:
you pretend to be controversial you are merely tabloid.
you pretend to be a brother your actually a snake in the grass (and not so dangerous either) .
you pretend to be an american menawhile you are a trite canadian knockoff
its funny james andrews may have alluded to a kkk plot but who needs them when we have you around anyway .. hmmm maybe that is what you meant in the article about the site being "lucrative". wouldnt be surprised bitch. i would just watch my back .. its amazing how many people dont really like you (i mean the people who know you)..as for the people around you: like the song says .. they smile in your face.....
386573457 |
This makes me laugh, no croak with laughter.
"You should help build the community instead of tear it down"
Get a clue. Black people always want to stiffle criticism with an appeal to unity. Bob Johnson is s specialist at this.
No one ever tells white journalists that they have to keep up the community.
Check out fuckedcompany.com and Netslaves. No one says appeal to unity to them.
Fuck the community if it's only mediocre content and power tripping execs. White folks are not tolerating that, because I hear those stories all the time.
Should black folks, us, tolerate crap from black execs because they're in a "community".
It's medocrity which is the enemy. And if these big willie execs are more concerned about this insular lifestyle, than serious, thoughtful content, then they will get swept aside.
Urban Expose is something that black America, not just the net, has needed for a long time, a critical, intelligent look at business.
If this turns into something like the Industry Standard, much less Billboard, I will hunt down the creator of this site, post his picture on /. and post a bounty for those who back orifice his personal computer first.
Mr. Business student, the last thing we need is another site where someone is trying to suck the ass of the readership.
Look at the kinds of sites which have done well, not the UBO's of the world, which are prefab and bereft of heart. It is the smaller, personal, aggresive sites which have kicked ass and taken names.
If one of these "urban" sites had been started by someone who didn't want to be friends with Puffy or the rapper of the week, or protecting their other business interests, they might be worth more than they are today.
It's only a matter of time before the antics of Andrews and his fellow execs are turned into a coon show for Inside.com and Medianews and the rest of the media.
This is a wakeup call. Heed it or suffer the consequences. |
Bruh gotta admit, this site is quite funny to look at and read. A lot of folks trip because of the messages being posted, but let's be real, if our African American brothers and sisters weren't doing anything, we wouldn't have anything to talk about and diss.
Sure, some may believe stuff gets personal, but this site is a living example of the best -- and worst -- of the First Amendment. No one ever said the right to free speech was the right to AGREE with the speech.
To the folks at urbanexpose.com, keep on pushing the envelope. And to the folks who they take aim at, keep on busting your butt to make it harder for them to playa hate. |
Mgr27Robinson:
I think Greaves was kidding when he said it was profitable from day one.
Though it probably costs next to nothing to run, so an occaisional free lunch and a little donated bandwidth would most likely put the the site in the black :-) |
A lot of accusations of mismanagement, incompetence and sub-par content have flown back and forth on UE, and the professional and personal reputations of a number of people have been thoroughly trashed.
But so far almost no constructive criticism has been made. (“Fire so and so” and “your content is weak/trite/trendy” don’t count)
Clearly UE’s audience is loaded with intelligent, and experienced web & publishing talent. The readers here seem to have a good grasp of the “urban experience” and some sense of what does and does not represent this community and its needs
So I ask you, UE readers:
What would you do to make Indie Planet / Latin Flava / Soul Purpose / 360 HipHop / Hookt.com the sites that they can and should be?
If the content is lacking, what should it be? What articles would you write? What issues would you address?
Who or what kinds of people would you hire? What would you sell the site as? What would you do first?
Where would you take UBO next?
What would you do to make MITP a strong community for professionals like you and me?
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Dear Mr. Gilliard:
I think you misunderstand me. I think UE could be so much more.
I'm not an advocate of mediocrity. You build the community, or any institution with a firm foundation of excellence. So criticism has an important role. You speak of white journalists as if the feature stories here can pass for reponsible journalism. Yes they are for the most snappy and well written, but no target of an UE attack has been given an opportunity to respond in that story. UE thinks nothing of publishing half truths, rumor and innuendo.
>>Mr. Business student, the last thing we need is another site where someone is trying to suck the ass of the readership.
I'm not sure if I understand you here. It sounds like you're saying that the last thing we need is a business that caters to the needs and desires of their customers. How many businesses do you regularly patronize that don't cater to your needs or "suck ass" as you eloquently put it.
You should still deal with my larger point which is that Greaves is trying to turn himself into the self-appointed critic of the business practices of firms in the urban New Media space when his own attempts within this very space have failed.
And I still believe that the business model of UE as this site is now structured can't work. Any firm that is profitable only because its staff work for free doesn't have much of a future. |
SO WAIT...GREAVES..HOW COME I GET NO EXTRA "CLOUT"???
HUH?? HUH???
www.afflictedyard.com |
i just wanna know TWO THINGS GREAVES: A) WHO writes the reviews HERE. It sure doesn't sound like your work (ie: "...visitied my girls family in vancouver today...boy was it dope")...but if it IS you...what the hell happened ? since when did you have a sense of humour? (remember how mad you got when i called your wife "GINGER PUBES"? damn nigga...you threatened to come to jamaica and murder me!!!!)
B) How the hell did you get back into the states fter you forged those immigration documents??!!?
i must know this..!!!
its the least you can do for the guy who gave your message board so many HITS!!!
you 4-eyed freak! lol
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How easy is it to manipulate the press these days? This site has thrown out alot of red herrings from the beginning, strating with the address 44 Wall St. which made everyone think its Hookt.com or Vanguarde and then last week it was James Andrew of UBO, who was put on the hot seat by Darrien Dash. And it looks like its going to be McLean for a little while, even though there is nothing to really tie Mclean to the site. Whose next to get outted?
Inside.com did piss poor research, if they did any, Mclean was never the CTO of Volume.com he was the Cheif Content Officer (CCO), so they probably didnt research the story. This indicates that they got their info from a source and it looks like the sounce was someone calling them selves Crispu and he manipulated them into thinking he was McLean.
A look at his writting style and the writting style on this site also points away from Mclean and Mclean has never been to an MITP meeting so its unlikely that he would be able to call out Tanya Omeze and the other. I think Urbanexpose is playing the media the same way they are playing the urban sites and making fools of everyone in the mean time. In order for me to believe someon is behind this site they have to meet the following conditions: a journalism background, more then 4 years work experience online, knowledge of the Urban portal space and a connection to MITP. If they dont have this then they aint behind the site.
I still think it could be Mclean, he meets all the conditions above, but after the inside.com article I doubt it a bit more then I did before. I'm putting my money that its not Mclean but his Fort Green homeboy, OMAR WASO!!! Omar is a journalist and a writter he has a long history online, he writes with a humorous and sarcasitic style. He knows everybody in the space and he runs one of the best sites online which has taken NO shots on this site yet.
Anyone wanna put some money on the table that its Omar Waso? Hey Mclean if your out there, whats a gigner pube? Afflicted wanna fill us in? Mclean, I'm not one to gossip, but I heard that your womannot was fairly popular in fort green before you two got married and that you have major beef with folks over the shady method you hooked up with her. Care to comment? {The preceeding questions is pure rumor and inuendo.]
art4short |
YES ART ...i knew i wasn't crazy bout the writing style. I was suspicious from the outset but if this is MCLEAN GREAVES shit...i would be pretty impressed with the fact that in less than two years he has gone from being possibly the WORST writer i have ever read to something quite different.
One of the people who showed me this site indicated a suspicion that it may be him ..but the writing style didn't fit...along with the fact that GREAVES simply cannot stand to be in charge of a site where people DISS him relentlessly (and worse yet if you diss his wife -'ginger pubes'.)
It just doesn't add up.
Greaves simply doesn't possess the sense of humour displayed here. As a matter of fact, back in 1998 Greaves became so enraged that i kept referring to his wife as 'GINGER PUBES'(a reference to her light skin of which he is very sensitive), that he actually contacted the University of North London to tell them that i was breaking into their school daily to "commit fraudelent acts."
Can you imagine? You're a starving unemployed yardie using a stolen student ID (the name on it was CARLENE for fucks sake!) to access the internet to send your shit around..and this guy who is an illegal alien himself is trying to get your ass deported cuz you called his wife GINGER PUBES?! (see www.afflictedyard.com/greaves.htm for a pic of her)
when he heard i was going to start my own site he actually BOUGHT the url name www.afflicted.com JUST SO I COULDNT GET IT and post pictures of myself running around NYC in a rabbit costume. THE BASTARD!!!!
Anyway..i'm still pretty skeptical he actually WRITES the stuff here...but who knows..maybe he has learned that success will come if he does the EXACT OPPOSITE of everything he did before.
go figure...afFLicted
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Before everyone gets open about the inside.com story as another poster said, has a lot of flaws.
First off, the facts concerning Mclean's professional history is wrong. Why would Mclean tell him something wrong? That made me wonder has the writer ever met Mclean before to know whether or not this person was really Mclean Greaves of Cafe Los Negros fame? I'm sure Mclean knows what he did or didn't do before and what his title was.
Damn people, think about it! besides anyone who knows Mclean, can pretty much tell this type of coo, aint him. The writing style, the hype and the hits? Naw, who ever the people are behind this site, they need to be the next crew of President and Vice President type of executives in this urban industry with the quickness. They got the whole segment watching and still guessing, me included.
This site is good, and it has traffic, so I doubt it's Mclean.
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why are people continuing to front? UBO owes dozens of people money? The chicks that got hired at UBO are glamourized hoes (everybody in the office knows that). There are so many white boys and girls who work there who wanna be down and try to act black it's ridiculous (e.g. Adam Matthews). how many times are we...er, ooops I mean they gonna make plans to move, re-launch...come on now. After George died that place died too. |
Biz,
At netslaves, we play by different rules, if you check our archives.
But, I also have a low tolerance for self-justification and lies, and this space seems to be filled with them.
Real criticism in the black community is like lactose to the lactose intolerant. Bob Johnson wrote a vicious rant about Aaron MacGruder and the Wash Post when they dared to criticism his cheesy network.
As far as working for free, how do you think Slashdot got started, or The Smoking Gun or Obscurestore?
You cannot graft a business plan on to heart and emotion. Too many sites are planned to death and they fail quickly. Give me honest emotion any day.
I think it is far more important to have something to say than to make money, if you can eat.
Innuendo and rumor are as much news as fact. If they weren't, Matt Drudge would be back blowing bar owners in DC.
Not everyone comes to the game as a journalist.
You can forward any business plans to the editor of the site, however.
And the standards in the industry are so low that anyone without three or four failures will not even be allowed to play. |
Alex Pappademas's INSIDE article is full of false statements and if you check the related story, some of the shit he wrote there was just plain made up. As many of y'all already stated... McLean probably ain't it. Who the hell is Alex Pappademas anyway? |
So, who is Alex Pappademas?
This cat Alex Pappademas is this Entertainment / Media / Music critic from Boston. His critical/cynical style of writing fits the content on this site like a DNA match for a death row inmate. For at least the past three years he has written for Student.com, dfpress.com, bostonpheonix.com, providencepheonix.com, and Inside.com to name a few. The more I read his work, the more I think he is the ghost writer for most, if not all, of the original content on this site.
For samples of his work follow the links on
http://www.providencephoenix.com/archive/music/99/09/16/
also check him on
http://www.dfpress.com/muse/1009977.html
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/music/99/08/26/MACY_GRAY.html |
Alex Pappademas is the associate editor of Music at Inside.com.... Inside.com was funded by none other than the FlatIronPartners.
Yo check out
http://199.97.97.16/contWriter/endprnewswire/2000/05/15/XXbXe/6450-0621-NY-Inside.com-Live...html
Read who is really behind UE.
Craig Marks?
Danny Goldberg?
Lorne Manley?
Alex Pappademas?
Flat Iron Partners?
what what what... |
B Cool
Why are you so eager to throw the trail off McLean Greaves? Despite your Alex Papp* investigation, Inside.com is still a reputable site that at least attempts to adhere to journalistic principles. Urbanespose does not. So until they decide to out themselves, or another reputable source refutes Inside.com's claim, Greaves is it. And given the designer bias of the feature articles here, he is a good choice, but he isn't doing it along. Maybe you are helping him as well. |
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Whoa B School Student...
I was just throwin shizznit ot there for people to check - and recheck. I still believe that there is a big Noritalf Conspiracy behind this site.
Just because McLean allegedly has shown up for two interviews, one with INSIDE in brooklyn and another with THE STANDARD in SOHO, wearing a gay-pride white pony-tail wig, saying he is Krispus Attucks doesn't mean his whack ass really is.
As many folks pointed out he ain't got the skillznillz to be the author of these articles, though perhaps he may be affiliated with whomever it really is.
Or, maybe his whack ass is just trying to steal the spotlight 'for 35-45 minutes', while we all still really don't know who is behind this very controvercy-all site.
I am not an "industry kat" nor a "hip hop head" so I am flattered by the fact that the little bit of 'clout' I have gained on this site (not in reality) has led you to believe that I am down with the UE clique. I will take that as a compliment. I'm simply a highly cynical, mildly affluent, marginally educated, extremely technology-inclined, sub urban, melanin-enhanced negro who is the would-be consumer target of these urbannet sites. That is, if they ever get their collective acts together, as UE points out time-after-time.
Don't bame me, I just post here. |
Keep makin it happen, B Cool.
Doom |
My Lord! Never have I in my life heard hell and hot water come down on all those who dare expose the truth! Keep on doing whats your doing Urban Expose...its real,its inside scoop,and I cuts down the B.S..peace out yall...and check out http://www.ruffnation.com/mf or http://www.wbr.com/goodurb |
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